From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "B. T. Raven" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Disabling nxml-mode Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:03:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <92m0bdFgm5U1@mid.individual.net> <851beb54-d923-402e-b2a3-933dee8c3bb3@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1306269101 21254 80.91.229.12 (24 May 2011 20:31:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:31:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 24 22:31:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QOyGO-00049c-LL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 22:31:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34315 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QOyGO-0001tt-7Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 16:31:36 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.sysmatrix.net!news.sysmatrix.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:03:31 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <851beb54-d923-402e-b2a3-933dee8c3bb3@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> X-No-Archive: yes Original-Lines: 64 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.73.128.211 Original-X-Trace: sv3-Ib4njfqKDbxAHa6iEvjLKhSSSTCZEzSyU8ShWRyIWFij2auzUaI+jeYjErMPKljQva0ay6cqUjDZT7x!44xwQ7DdqYMIfL0sGpZy2WXvH+73fh30UUUgxn/7d6bAEtX7H8pa6gFuM7+3twkdfvPlu/Zj6825!BfK3EoE544clePjhOn2PrCBxUwZdCmk= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@sysmatrix.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3869 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:186838 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Gmane-Expiry: 2011-06-07 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81180 Archived-At: Xah Lee wrote: > On May 10, 10:15 am, "B. T. Raven" wrote: >> Thanks for the Emacs23 new features pages. It would have been a long >> time before I found out about proced and global visual-line-mode on my own. >> >> Two questions on matters your embedded links lead to: >> 1) Why is ergoemacs not gpl licensed? > > it is? am curious how you got the impression that it's not? > >> 2) For kui (keyboard user interface) I use keytweak, firemacs, and >> xkeymacs on w32 desktop but on thinkpad I can't get Fn key to do duty as >> a mod key even though xev shows it as rassigned by xmodmap. Since you >> are an ergonomics maven, I was hoping you (or any-one here) might know >> whether the bottom-row keys on a thinkpad could be swapped around and >> re-arranged without resorting to kernel surgery a la Rick Van Rein's >> Funkey patch: >> >> http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/funkey/#modes >> >> Thanks again, Xah, and, in advance, if you know anything about question 2. > > if i understand correctly, you are using Windows on a desktop and > linux on your thinkpad labtop. Some problem occur with the linux on > thinkpad? > > i dont' think i know the answer anyway. > > On Windows, you might try AutoHotkey, which i use. I have some > tutorial here: > > 〈Windows Programing: AutoHotkey Tutorial〉 > http://xahlee.org/mswin/autohotkey.html > > according to Wikipedia, there's a linux version of AutoHotkey but i > never tried. > > am guessing you can't remap Fn key by software on arbitary laptop > because they are probably hardwired in non-standard ways. True but xev (x events) shows them redefined and sending state information (downkey and upkey). I think those are the only two states on any mod key. > > thanks for mentioning keytweak > http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/ > > i haven't heard of it before. > > Xah Sorry. All I did was read the ergoemacs feature list and saw the creative commons link at the bottom of the page (referring to the page itself). I didn't actually download ergoemacs and install it. Keytweak does the part of AutoHotKey that I'm interested in (substitution in w32 registry). Most of the rest Emacs can do already and I don't want to introduce gratuitous complexity into an area where my understanding is already fragile. On my specific problem, I studied this until I was dizzy and tried various combo with xmodmap but with no luck: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work