From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Make new buffer from menu Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 15:36:17 +0300 Message-ID: References: <3BpVZiHtJ2qfvYFaoGSD6wsXiZ9I4gzw1gPBRi3VA8jvDWEJx119h77NiqZkLEqmAZmX1AyjWJN6zBgZwHwRU1wqpTqthx9-BO0Sx34z-80=@protonmail.com> <5h9uQSeZVWQNo6OeB1lac6mQnYqWfJf2IWjomv-R470AYZXCp1XTXDqml7feE3C8NqCG-kmA46BveaNQlAuNnyLRednceriPZ1PymtdU3wc=@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31747"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+50 (c79959e) (2022-11-21) Cc: Drew Adams , "'Help-Gnu-Emacs (help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org)'" To: Heime Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 04 14:07:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p1oi7-0007x3-J2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 14:07:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1ohT-0006au-8P; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 08:06:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1ohB-0006WY-Bl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 08:06:13 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1oh8-0000Q1-Rl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 08:06:13 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.83.127.103]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055DA2.00000000638C9B41.00006561; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 06:06:09 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Heime , Drew Adams , "'Help-Gnu-Emacs (help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org)'" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5h9uQSeZVWQNo6OeB1lac6mQnYqWfJf2IWjomv-R470AYZXCp1XTXDqml7feE3C8NqCG-kmA46BveaNQlAuNnyLRednceriPZ1PymtdU3wc=@protonmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141352 Archived-At: * Heime [2022-12-03 21:45]: > Using Emacs is like working on ice. It is extremely dangerous. Can > you imagine landing on a runway that is technically floating, > unstable, and unpredictable. Is it really? I understand your position. Though for me Emacs can be unsafe only if my data get lost. If it is not aborting and dropping core, then it is pretty safe editor. Now even if it crushes, normally Emacs will retain the unsaved file on the file system, it is pretty safe and user does not need to lose data. I remember 1999, it was often not stable, aborting, crushing, depending of version. I have been using various versions at that time. My Emacs usage does not fall really in common editing, I do multi-company accounting and people relationship management, handling SMS messages, XMPP communication with teams of people, initiate phone calls and market worldwide by Emacs. As Richard Stallman said, Emacs is editor to edit any kind of data, it is not only about text files. Why not edit file names and directories? That is what Dired does. Anything that has letters and symbols is for editing. It also includes editing of images. It displays images, flips them, do some simple editing, then in the development version can crop images, and save me time spanning external programs. > > Rather, maybe assume that you're not the first user to think of > > the usefulness of making a new buffer without saving it, and > > suppose that maybe Emacs is already providing you with a way to do > > what you are quick to claim "cannot" be done. > > An ice strip on a frozen lake can be hard to spot from the air. > We need some proper markers. "Select Named Buffer" is not a proper > marker. If we cannot see how far the ground is away, we need a good > reference. Forget about the "Ask Emacs" mantra. The Emacs Editor **************** Emacs is the advanced, extensible, customizable, self-documenting editor. This manual describes how to edit with Emacs and some of the ways to customize it; it corresponds to GNU Emacs version 30.0.50. It is self-documenting. Most of features you are asking are already programming features. So what I do is {C-h r} or {C-h r TAB RET} as by latter I get into Emacs Lisp manual and I find many things. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/