From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Getting latest development version Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 11:38:23 +0300 Message-ID: References: <1445516721.59866.1669486069971@orville.co-bxl> <83zgcdr18d.fsf@gnu.org> <1963649397.63084.1669489596756@orville.co-bxl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40175"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Hans Lonsdale Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 27 09:39:52 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ozDCZ-000AFg-4Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 09:39:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ozDC7-0006Fa-Bv; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 03:39:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ozDC4-0006FN-QH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 03:39:21 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ozDC2-0002xa-RQ; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 03:39:20 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.4.96]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055EA2.0000000063832216.00003B72; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 01:38:45 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Hans Lonsdale , Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1963649397.63084.1669489596756@orville.co-bxl> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 16 X-Spam_score: 1.6 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141195 Archived-At: * Hans Lonsdale [2022-11-27 11:04]: > Could you add more details (commands for download) directly on "software/emacs/download.html" on > how to get the various possibilities (releases, development version). Currently everything is dispersed > in the emacs website and the savannah website. It is quite a strain to have to go through searching for things. > > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html I may add here, that I when hiring people, I give them to do the Emacs Tutorial, however, directions on how to download Emacs are very unclear for beginners. It is fine and good for GNU/Linux. But those using Windows have problem: They click here: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html#nonfree after that they click and redirect to mirror: https://gnuftp.uib.no/emacs/windows/ and there is no way to see what to download exactly and what to do? They get this listing: Index of /emacs/windows Icon Name Last modified Size Description[PARENTDIR] Parent Directory - [DIR] emacs-22/ 2019-04-16 23:30 - [DIR] emacs-23/ 2019-04-16 22:50 - [DIR] emacs-24/ 2019-04-16 22:40 - [DIR] emacs-25/ 2019-04-16 22:35 - [DIR] emacs-26/ 2019-08-30 15:10 - [DIR] emacs-27/ 2021-03-31 18:49 - [DIR] emacs-28/ 2022-09-13 18:57 - [ ] libXpm-3.5.7-w32-src.zip 2008-03-26 13:16 79K [ ] libXpm-3.5.7-w32-src.zip.sig 2008-03-26 13:16 280 [ ] libxpm-3.5.8-w32-src.zip 2010-04-10 02:12 1.4M [ ] libxpm-3.5.8-w32-src.zip.sig 2010-04-10 02:13 96 [ ] xpm-nox-4.2.0-src.zip 2016-09-18 20:37 267K [ ] xpm-nox-4.2.0-src.zip.sig 2016-09-18 20:37 173 And that is very confusing for people who are not programmers and not GNU/Linux users. For Windows there shall be direct download link to single installable package. I have filed this as bug. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/