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* Document management system with Org?
@ 2022-11-07 19:51 Max Brieiev
  2022-11-07 20:04 ` Bill Burdick
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Max Brieiev @ 2022-11-07 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Org newbie here.

Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system.

How suitable is it to manage documents?

Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file
system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example,
'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes.

I would also like to have a way to categorize a group of documents by
some criteria, e.g. by the name of a contractor.

It would be good to have a dired-like interface to browse documents and
manipulate them: view/copy/delete/attach to email etc.

What approach could I use for this?
Is there anything like that in Org ecosystem?

Thanks.


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* Re: Document management system with Org?
  2022-11-07 19:51 Document management system with Org? Max Brieiev
@ 2022-11-07 20:04 ` Bill Burdick
  2022-11-08  2:52 ` Samuel Wales
  2022-11-08 20:53 ` Jean Louis
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bill Burdick @ 2022-11-07 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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I use orgroam for this sort of thing: https://www.orgroam.com/ In fact, I
manage most of my org files with orgroam.


-- Bill


On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 9:52 PM Max Brieiev <max.brieiev@gmail.com> wrote:

> Org newbie here.
>
> Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system.
>
> How suitable is it to manage documents?
>
> Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file
> system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example,
> 'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes.
>
> I would also like to have a way to categorize a group of documents by
> some criteria, e.g. by the name of a contractor.
>
> It would be good to have a dired-like interface to browse documents and
> manipulate them: view/copy/delete/attach to email etc.
>
> What approach could I use for this?
> Is there anything like that in Org ecosystem?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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* Re: Document management system with Org?
  2022-11-07 19:51 Document management system with Org? Max Brieiev
  2022-11-07 20:04 ` Bill Burdick
@ 2022-11-08  2:52 ` Samuel Wales
  2022-11-08 16:32   ` Max Brieiev
  2022-11-08 20:53 ` Jean Louis
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2022-11-08  2:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

hi max,

welcome to org.

org-roam has been suggested but i do not use it so i will not address
that and will leave it to others.

org is a good choice for this kind of thing, but it is not clear to me
how much of it needs to be built on top of existing to get what you
ask for.  emacs is good at doing that, however.  there are parts of
org that are basically made for it.

if you want to tag and then use agenda, that offers powerful features,
as does the category property.  one possible issue is remembering to
tag.  that is why i mostly don't use tags.  but there is regexp search
also.

the manual is good.  the agenda is sort of dired-like.  it sounds like
tags and catgegories might work for you.

if you read about hte org-id system, that might help you to make
unbreakable links should you need them.

attachments were made for storing files.  i don't use those because
they don't add much value for me; i just use plain links and i use
variables because file links in org run substitute-in-file-name  as
another possibility i haven't fully integrated, ** paths with glob
links might in priniciple help if files stay in the general area but
pathnames change.

but attachments might work for you.  they are actively used by many.
they more or less do what you are asking.

they are only for files, however.  if you ever need more than files, i
forsee a need for some kind of system for syncing with generic links
and external documnets and internal documents, something along hte
lines of spookfox perhaps.

but you seem to need only files.  so attachments or file links might
work for you with agenda and tags and categories.

the org forest is hierarchical, which an hlpe you put your data in the
same place.  if you need to break that system, links, tags, and
categories might help to keep your documents findable.  there are also
packges for transclusion.


On 11/7/22, Max Brieiev <max.brieiev@gmail.com> wrote:
> Org newbie here.
>
> Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system.
>
> How suitable is it to manage documents?
>
> Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file
> system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example,
> 'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes.
>
> I would also like to have a way to categorize a group of documents by
> some criteria, e.g. by the name of a contractor.
>
> It would be good to have a dired-like interface to browse documents and
> manipulate them: view/copy/delete/attach to email etc.
>
> What approach could I use for this?
> Is there anything like that in Org ecosystem?
>
> Thanks.
>
>


-- 
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https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com


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* Re: Document management system with Org?
  2022-11-08  2:52 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2022-11-08 16:32   ` Max Brieiev
  2022-11-08 16:51     ` Russell Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Max Brieiev @ 2022-11-08 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Thank you. This was very useful.

Seems like attachments will work for me.

Also seems like I can use org capture templates to record metadata for
different types of documents.

Now I need to dig in to the Org manual...


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* Re: Document management system with Org?
  2022-11-08 16:32   ` Max Brieiev
@ 2022-11-08 16:51     ` Russell Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2022-11-08 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 06:32:32PM +0200, Max Brieiev wrote:
> Thank you. This was very useful.
>
> Seems like attachments will work for me.
>
> Also seems like I can use org capture templates to record metadata for
> different types of documents.
>
> Now I need to dig in to the Org manual...
>

Don't plan on using Org to manage the files (ie: folder layout/names),
but if you want to take notes on files that works.

For instance, for vendor exams I will read whitepapers and course
material linking my org file to the original PDF. I use org-noter to
let me take notes linked to the document in question!

https://github.com/weirdNox/org-noter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0ZRXTzufo

It's worked great for me.

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                                    https://www.adamsinfoserv.com/


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* Re: Document management system with Org?
  2022-11-07 19:51 Document management system with Org? Max Brieiev
  2022-11-07 20:04 ` Bill Burdick
  2022-11-08  2:52 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2022-11-08 20:53 ` Jean Louis
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2022-11-08 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

* Max Brieiev <max.brieiev@gmail.com> [2022-11-07 22:54]:
> Org newbie here.
> 
> Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system.
> 
> How suitable is it to manage documents?

That was my question too, when I tried to index 14000+ PDF pages. So I
gave birth to Hyperscope for GNU Emacs.

Problem is that I do not have software ready in public, but I can help
with installing it.

> Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file
> system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example,
> 'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes.

Exactly. And user should be able to define the type of a document and
use any kind of Markup.

Recommended reading:

About Dynamic Knowledge Repositories (DKR):
https://www.dougengelbart.org/content/view/190/163/

┌─────────────────────────────┬─────────────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────────┬───────┐
│            Type             │          Sub-type           │                  Markup                   │ Count │
├─────────────────────────────┼─────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────────┼───────┤
│ Audio                       │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   106 │
│ Audio                       │ Song                        │ Default (Text)                            │    17 │
│ Audio                       │ Call                        │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Audio                       │ Voice                       │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ AVAILABLE                   │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Backlink                    │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   257 │
│ Call                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Call                        │ Task                        │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ CBR                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Common Lisp                 │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ CSV                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    11 │
│ DB-ID                       │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    29 │
│ Directory                   │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    76 │
│ DISEASE                     │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    11 │
│ DJVU                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    27 │
│ Document                    │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │    99 │
│ Document                    │ Agreement                   │ Asciidoctor                               │    20 │
│ Document                    │ Payslip                     │ Asciidoctor                               │    11 │
│ Document                    │ Instructions                │ Asciidoctor                               │     9 │
│ Document                    │ Report                      │ Asciidoctor                               │     8 │
│ Document                    │ Proposal                    │ Asciidoctor                               │     7 │
│ Document                    │ Corporate Resolution        │ Asciidoctor                               │     4 │
│ Document                    │ Wealth Generation Plan      │ Asciidoctor                               │     4 │
│ Document                    │ Heralrdry                   │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Document                    │ WRS Page                    │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Document                    │ Partnership Offer           │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Document                    │ Task                        │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Document                    │ Letterhead                  │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Document                    │ Offer                       │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Document                    │ Attachment                  │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Document                    │ Default                     │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Proposal                    │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Public Bidding              │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Quotation                   │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Offer                       │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Demand                      │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Template                    │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Opportunity                 │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Document                    │ Battle Plan                 │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ DOCX                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Emacs Lisp                  │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    12 │
│ Emacs Lisp Hyperlink        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    76 │
│ Enriched                    │ Default                     │ Enriched                                  │     4 │
│ EPUB                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   124 │
│ EPUB                        │ Recipe                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ File                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   130 │
│ File                        │ Default                     │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │     1 │
│ FOLLOW-UP                   │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    75 │
│ FOLLOW-UP                   │ Call                        │ Default (Text)                            │    15 │
│ FOLLOW-UP                   │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ FOLLOW-UP                   │ Opportunity                 │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ GnuCash                     │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Gnumeric                    │ Spreadsheet                 │ Default (Text)                            │     4 │
│ Gnumeric                    │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Good News                   │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ HTML Hyperdocument          │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    34 │
│ HTML Hyperdocument          │ Default                     │ HTML                                      │     1 │
│ HTML Hyperdocument          │ Instructions                │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ HyperScope ID               │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    17 │
│ Image                       │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   929 │
│ Image                       │ ID Document                 │ Default (Text)                            │    16 │
│ Image                       │ Profile Picture             │ Default (Text)                            │    16 │
│ Image                       │ Public Bidding              │ Default (Text)                            │     4 │
│ Image                       │ Certificate                 │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Image                       │ Food                        │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Image                       │ Magic                       │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Image                       │ Header Image for Letterhead │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Image                       │ Recipe                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Image                       │ Signature                   │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Image                       │ Travel                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Image                       │ Instructions                │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Info Node                   │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Inquiry                     │ Request for quotation       │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Instruction                 │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     8 │
│ Instruction                 │ E-mail Snippet              │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Invoice                     │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     7 │
│ Invoice                     │ Quotation                   │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Kotl (Hyperbole Outline)    │ Default                     │ Kotl                                      │     1 │
│ Launch Program              │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     6 │
│ Letter                      │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Letter                      │ Letterhead                  │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Letter                      │ Proposal                    │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Local File                  │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    24 │
│ Maff                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Markdown (Pandoc, espresso) │ Default                     │ Markdown (Pandoc, espresso)               │    53 │
│ Mbox                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Media                       │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    13 │
│ Media                       │ Song                        │ Default (Text)                            │     6 │
│ Meeting                     │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     6 │
│ Message-ID                  │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    10 │
│ Mobi                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Mount Point                 │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │  6491 │
│ Note                        │ Dev-T                       │ Default (Text)                            │   280 │
│ Note                        │ Report                      │ Default (Text)                            │    70 │
│ Note                        │ Call                        │ Default (Text)                            │    47 │
│ Note                        │ Acknowledgment              │ Default (Text)                            │    35 │
│ Note                        │ Poem                        │ Default (Text)                            │    25 │
│ Note                        │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │    22 │
│ Note                        │ Request for quotation       │ Default (Text)                            │    10 │
│ Note                        │ Instructions                │ Default (Text)                            │    10 │
│ Note                        │ Cognition                   │ Default (Text)                            │     8 │
│ Note                        │ Request For Proposal        │ Default (Text)                            │     7 │
│ Note                        │ E-mail Snippet              │ Default (Text)                            │     7 │
│ Note                        │ Dream                       │ Default (Text)                            │     7 │
│ Note                        │ Quotation                   │ Default (Text)                            │     6 │
│ Note                        │ Proposal                    │ Default (Text)                            │     5 │
│ Note                        │ Default                     │ Org                                       │     5 │
│ Note                        │ Question                    │ Default (Text)                            │     5 │
│ Note                        │ Loan Request                │ Default (Text)                            │     4 │
│ Note                        │ Meeting                     │ Default (Text)                            │     4 │
│ Note                        │ Offer                       │ Default (Text)                            │     4 │
│ Note                        │ ID Document                 │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Note                        │ Partnership Offer           │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Note                        │ Template                    │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Note                        │ Phone                       │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Note                        │ Recipe                      │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Note                        │ Progress                    │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Note                        │ Warning                     │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Note                        │ Event                       │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Note                        │ Default                     │ PostgreSQL                                │     2 │
│ Note                        │ Online Account              │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Note                        │ Default                     │ Org Heading                               │     2 │
│ Note                        │ Pricing                     │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Note                        │ Theft                       │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Note                        │ WRS Page                    │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Demand                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Contact Information         │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Ethics Report               │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Financial Subject           │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Opinion                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Note                        │ PDF                         │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Contact Information         │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Public Bidding              │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Questionnaire               │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Travel                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Warning                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Note                        │ WRS Page                    │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Note                        │ Default                     │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │     1 │
│ ODS                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ ODT                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Opportunity                 │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    47 │
│ Opportunity                 │ Call                        │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Opportunity                 │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Opportunity                 │ Follow-up                   │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Opportunity                 │ Case                        │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Org                         │ Default                     │ Org                                       │    31 │
│ Org                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Org                         │ Expenses Report             │ Org                                       │     1 │
│ Page in physical book       │ Training                    │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Password                    │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │  2840 │
│ PDF                         │ Book                        │ Default (Text)                            │    13 │
│ PDF                         │ ID Document                 │ Default (Text)                            │     8 │
│ PDF                         │ Certificate                 │ Default (Text)                            │     6 │
│ PDF                         │ Quotation                   │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ PDF                         │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ PDF                         │ Report                      │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ PDF                         │ Instructions                │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ PDF                         │ Flyer                       │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF                         │ Agreement                   │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF                         │ Business Profile            │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF                         │ Contract                    │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF                         │ PDF                         │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF                         │ Press Release               │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF                         │ Recipe                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ PDF by Page Nr.             │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │ 14476 │
│ PostgreSQL                  │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    40 │
│ PostgreSQL                  │ Report                      │ Default (Text)                            │    10 │
│ Project                     │ Task                        │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Project                     │ Instructions                │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Project                     │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Project                     │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ QUOTATION                   │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Quote                       │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     6 │
│ Report                      │ Site Monitoring             │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Schedule of Fees            │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   202 │
│ Scheme                      │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Service                     │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    11 │
│ Set ➾                       │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │  1985 │
│ Set ➾                       │ Business Plan               │ Default (Text)                            │    29 │
│ Set ➾                       │ Case                        │ Default (Text)                            │     4 │
│ Set ➾                       │ Financial Subject           │ Default (Text)                            │     4 │
│ Set ➾                       │ Follow-up                   │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Set ➾                       │ Recipe                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Set ➾                       │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Shell Command               │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Shell Script                │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ SMS                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Statement                   │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ SUCCESS                     │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ SVG                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    13 │
│ Task                        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   306 │
│ Task                        │ Call                        │ Default (Text)                            │   223 │
│ Task                        │ Instructions                │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Task                        │ Follow-up                   │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Pay                         │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Practical Skill             │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Report                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Request For Proposal        │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Training                    │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Travel                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Debt                        │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Task                        │ Dev-T                       │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Text                        │ Default                     │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │  3999 │
│ Text                        │ WRS Page                    │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │   288 │
│ Text                        │ Default                     │ Asciidoctor                               │    43 │
│ Text                        │ WRS Page                    │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │    21 │
│ Text                        │ Default                     │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │    20 │
│ Text                        │ Quotation                   │ Asciidoctor                               │    11 │
│ Text                        │ E-mail Signature            │ Default (Text)                            │     8 │
│ Text                        │ E-mail Snippet              │ Default (Text)                            │     7 │
│ Text                        │ Offer                       │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │     6 │
│ Text                        │ Default                     │ txt2tags                                  │     5 │
│ Text                        │ Poem                        │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │     5 │
│ Text                        │ Instructions                │ Asciidoctor                               │     3 │
│ Text                        │ Default                     │ Org                                       │     2 │
│ Text                        │ Certificate                 │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │     2 │
│ Text                        │ Proposal                    │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Text                        │ Questionnaire               │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Text                        │ Report                      │ Asciidoctor                               │     2 │
│ Text                        │ Instructions                │ txt2tags                                  │     1 │
│ Text                        │ Signature                   │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │     1 │
│ Text                        │ WRS Page                    │ Asciidoctor                               │     1 │
│ Text                        │ Instructions                │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Text                        │ Cognition                   │ Markdown (Discount Markdown)              │     1 │
│ Text                        │ WRS Page                    │ Markdown (Pandoc, espresso)               │     1 │
│ Text                        │ WRS Page                    │ txt2tags                                  │     1 │
│ URL for Image               │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    25 │
│ Video                       │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   165 │
│ Video                       │ Music                       │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Video                       │ Song                        │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ Video (exact time)          │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    25 │
│ WRS Unprocessed Page        │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │ 12439 │
│ WWW                         │ PDF                         │ Default (Text)                            │    78 │
│ WWW                         │ Magic                       │ Default (Text)                            │    40 │
│ WWW                         │ Recipe                      │ Default (Text)                            │    20 │
│ WWW                         │ Patent                      │ Default (Text)                            │    17 │
│ WWW                         │ Place                       │ Default (Text)                            │    12 │
│ WWW                         │ Video                       │ Default (Text)                            │     7 │
│ WWW                         │ Song                        │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ WWW                         │ Job                         │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ WWW                         │ Task                        │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ WWW                         │ Partnership Offer           │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ Letter                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ Health Remedy               │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ Drug Information            │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ Spreadsheet                 │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ Article                     │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ City                        │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ WWW                         │ Link to Map                 │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ XCF                         │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     2 │
│ Xournalpp                   │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │     3 │
│ Xournalpp                   │ Instructions                │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ YouTube                     │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │   363 │
│ YouTube                     │ Recipe                      │ Default (Text)                            │     1 │
│ YouTube Video (exact time)  │ Default                     │ Default (Text)                            │    63 │
└─────────────────────────────┴─────────────────────────────┴───────────────────────────────────────────┴───────┘
(258 rows)

> I would also like to have a way to categorize a group of documents
> by some criteria, e.g. by the name of a contractor.

Of course, that is exactly what I do, here is the invisible part:

                             ID   1
                   Date created   "2021-06-21 04:01:39.438722+03"
                  Date modified   "2022-11-06 11:01:44.178231+03"
                   User created   "maddox"
                  User modified   "maddox"
                  Search Status   "Default"
            Start Date and Time   nil
              End Date and Time   nil
                    Markup Type   "Default (Text)"
                      Note Type   "Set ➾"
                       Sub-type   "Default"
                           Name   "📝 ╔ Notes"
                      Hyperlink   "Notes"
                      Arguments   nil
                    Description   "General notes about  anything. Notes in this set are  not sorted under special category or set. "
                           Text   "⟦ (hyperscope-wrap-eev \"Hyperbole DEMO file\" '(find-hyperbolefile \"DEMO\")) ⟧"
           Internal information   nil
                      Parent ID   nil
                         Author   nil
                     Permission   "Default"
                       Revision   nil
                Number of pages   nil
                       Language   nil
                      File size   nil
                    Time length   nil
                          Width   nil
                         Height   nil
                           Hash   nil
                  GPG Signature   nil
                          Pages   nil

"People list" could be company, group or similar.

            Related people list   nil

"Related person" must be individual.

                 Related person   nil

               Related business   nil
                  Search status   1
                   Set Priority   210
                    Author Name   nil
                     Properties   nil
                Emacs Lisp Hash   nil
                      Publisher   nil
 AVAILABLE (was Related to group)   nil
        Assigned to people list   nil
            Assigned to contact   nil
                    Global Rank   201
                         Active   t
                  Action status   "PENDING"
                Global priority   100000
                   Related URIs   nil
                       Template   nil
                       WRS Area   nil
                Publishing type   nil
                           Slug   nil
                        License   nil
                      File type   ".html HTML File"
                         Report   nil
                         Tokens   "'1':3 'anyth':8 'case':28 'categori':18 'file':1 'general':5 'hyperscop':27 'note':2,4,6,9,22,24,25 'notes-tak':21 'null':29 'set':12,20,26 'sort':15 'special':17 'take':23"
             Temporary Document   nil
            Override Major Mode   nil
                    Minor Modes   nil
                Related country   nil
                      Report to   nil
              Physical location   nil
                    Lead Source   nil
                       Currency   nil
               Sales Flow Stage   nil
                   WRS Category   nil
                       WRS Menu   nil
                   WRS Keywords   nil
                   WRS Priority   10
                WRS Not in Menu   nil
                  WRS Main Page   nil
                   WRS OG Image   nil
                        Curator   "Jean Louis"
                      Comm Line   nil
                       Location   nil
 AVAILABLE (was Assigned to people list)   nil
                            SKU   nil
                 Value or Price   nil
                  Introduced by   nil
                           UUID   "3bc50c7b-aed3-46ef-8966-d38e9f51df38"

> It would be good to have a dired-like interface to browse documents and
> manipulate them: view/copy/delete/attach to email etc.

My interface is tabulated list mode:

     1 📝 ╔ Notes                                         Set ➾             Default                     PENDING
     2 🙋 ║ People                                        Set ➾             Default                     
     3 🗂️ ║ Central Files                                 Set ➾             Default                     
     4 ❗ ║ Reports & Statistics                          Set ➾             Default                     
     5 🔤 ║ All Hyperscope Tags                           Emacs Lisp Hyperlink Default                     
     6 📅 ║ Hyperscope Agenda                             Emacs Lisp Hyperlink Default                     
     7 🐶 ╚ Hyperscope Actions 🇹 🇴 🇩 🇴                    Emacs Lisp Hyperlink Default                     PENDING
     8 🏁 Hyperscope List of 🌈 Latest Hyperdocuments ╗   Emacs Lisp Hyperlink Default                     
     9 🎬 Hyperscope List of Published Hyperdocuments ╝   Emacs Lisp Hyperlink Default                     
    10 🖍️ Scratch                                         Set ➾             Default                     

> What approach could I use for this?

I can recommend trying out my software, that must be done by using my
personal guidance on chat.

Demo of publishing a document:
https://gnu.support/images/2021/05/2021-05-04/2021-05-04-00:00:52.ogv

https://gnu.support/images/2021/05/2021-05-04/2021-05-04-02:53:54.ogv

https://gnu.support/images/2021/05/2021-05-12/2021-05-12-13:42:04.ogv

Screenshot:
https://gnu.support/images/2022/04/2022-04-23/Screenshot-2022-04-23-03-44-03-743174672.png


-- 
Jean

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