From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:15:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83zgdqwjca.fsf@gnu.org> <838rl9wh4m.fsf@gnu.org> <834jvxwbuf.fsf@gnu.org> <8335bhw68r.fsf@gnu.org> <83zgdpuq3b.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32929"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, 58634@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 21 21:18:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1olxWy-0007fq-Pa for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:18:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olxSo-0006Vb-4M; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:13:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olvcp-0005LH-5j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olvco-0005Yt-Mf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1olvco-0000ok-Ib for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 58634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58634.16663725293097 (code B ref 58634); Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2022 17:15:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1olvcH-0000ns-Je for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:15:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mx3.muc.de ([193.149.48.5]:61438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1olvcF-0000nc-1i for 58634@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:15:27 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 78630 invoked by uid 3782); 21 Oct 2022 19:15:20 +0200 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe15b9b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.91.155]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 19:15:19 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 28279 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Oct 2022 17:15:19 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83zgdpuq3b.fsf@gnu.org> X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:246004 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 18:57:28 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:42:54 +0000 > > Cc: juri@linkov.net, 58634@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de > > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > I'm against adding this kind of trace. > > Yes, that's clear, but you haven't suggested anything better. Emacs > > freezing for large portions of a minute, or even longer, is not a good > > thing. > I suggest to do nothing about that. Yes. I don't understand that. Emacs hangs irritatingly, and there's a simple fix. You're not prepared to apply it, to try it out, or even to look at it. What about the other remaining matter - that (message "") in info.el? Presumably we're waiting on some response from Juri. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).