From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Functions with multiple optional arguments Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:00:27 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87sfjn2ibz.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87lepeyvx6.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3845"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 20 23:06:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1olcka-0000pq-ND for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 23:06:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olckZ-0000Q7-8V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:06:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [::1] (helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olcfF-0003k9-Ur for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olcf0-0003iv-TX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:01:04 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olceu-00074S-Vm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.7.218]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D81.000000006351B705.000044F2; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 14:00:52 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87lepeyvx6.fsf@dataswamp.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140209 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg [2022-10-18 12:15]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > >> CL has another way, more practical probably, to assign > >> default values to optional arguments and that can be used > >> in Elisp as well with `cl-defun' ... > > > > I keep anything like Common Lisp for Common Lisp and strive > > to keep Emacs Lisp functions without CL stuff for clarity of > > my mind. > > If so, relax, as `cl-defun' is as much Elisp as `defun' ... > > C-h f cl-defun RET > > It's in cl-macs.el ... I do not load what is not needed. And Emacs Lisp is not Common Lisp, no need to conform to it. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/