From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, 58634@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org
Subject: bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:55:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1EpLKhm85c1rQFI@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837d0vyssv.fsf@gnu.org>
Hello, Eli.
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 08:20:48 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:58:36 +0000
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 58634@debbugs.gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> > I have a theory. The function desktop-restore-file-buffer visits a file
> > with find-file-noselect, then calls switch-to-buffer on it. (This is the
> > interactive command on C-x b.) In earlier times, there would be a delay
> > in visiting the next file, and in this delay redisplay would happen. The
> > user would thus see a sequence of short displays of his files being
> > loaded. Nowadays, the time to visit a file is so short that redisplay
> > never registers a delay, and so doesn't redisplay. But with something
> > slowing the processing down a little (outputting "Restoring
> > desktop......", for example), the OS's file system goes to sleep, and
> > takes long enough to wake up for redisplay to trigger. Or something like
> > that.
> > What do you think?
> Does this happen with Emacs 28 as well in your configuration?
It does, yes. More precisely, it did after I commented out some
variables in several .dir-locals that were causing "unsafe variable"
warning messages.
> Because with Emacs 28 I use desktop.el all the time, and I do see the
> frame displaying some files and messages in the echo-area.
Remember, the blank screen only happens for me in emacs -nw and on the
linux console, not in GUI X.
> If the same happens for you with Emacs 28, I guess it's somehow
> related to your init files and/or what exactly is in your session.
> For example, my sessions always include some buffers under Text mode
> or its descendants, and those turn on Flyspell mode in my
> configuration; starting Flyspell mode launches the speller as a
> sub-process, and that usually triggers some form of redisplay. In
> addition, I have garbage-collection-messages turned on, so GC-related
> messages are shown in the echo-area, which also is a kind of
> redisplay. Restoring file buffers sometimes produces prompts, e.g. if
> the file is too large or there are local variables there that require
> confirmation -- and those prompts trigger redisplay as well.
> If you have none of that in your configuration, perhaps desktop.el can
> indeed produce a completely blank frame. Although it sounds strange
> to me, since I never saw anything like that. But it could be because
> I'm used to starting Emacs with my configuration.
All this supports my hypothesis (above). Anything which is "slow"
causes a redisplay during desktop loading. For each buffer loaded,
there is a switch-to-buffer call, so anything causing a redisplay will
display that buffer.
If you agree with me that this needs fixing (I think you do), I have two
ideas on how to fix it:
(i) (Rough and ready): Output a "progress report" in the form of a dot
for each buffer, showing "Restoring desktop.......", exactly as in the
patch I included yesterday. The user might not see any buffers here,
but will at least be reassured his Emacs hasn't hung.
(ii) (More complicated): Count the number of buffers since the last
redisplay. When this reaches, say, 10, cause the next buffer to be
redisplayed by something like (sit-for 0.1), or even (redisplay) in
desktop-restore-file-buffer. The counter would be reset by a function
on the hook pre-redisplay-functions.
What do you think?
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-20 10:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-19 13:28 bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-19 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-19 19:11 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-19 19:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-20 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-20 10:55 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-10-20 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-20 15:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-20 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 8:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 12:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 14:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 15:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 17:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 19:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 20:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-22 6:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-22 12:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-22 13:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 15:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-23 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 18:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-26 16:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-26 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-26 19:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-27 5:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 19:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-22 17:46 ` Juri Linkov
2022-10-22 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
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