From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add user extension APIs for WebKit Xwidgets Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:28:24 +0300 Message-ID: References: <763B89A7-AF82-4AAB-A0E9-A04D9958CAE8@stanford.edu> <878rlianx4.fsf@yahoo.com> <9FF9464C-1369-423E-A581-A900D132845F@stanford.edu> <87zgdy97t1.fsf@yahoo.com> <63F00459-018C-4634-9B52-A89A3ED1AA36@stanford.edu> <0F1442C8-45E2-408C-B310-448B4A26496E@stanford.edu> <838rlf3tiz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33247"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 13:22:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okOCI-0008SK-Tt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:22:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51876 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okOCH-0003M1-Q4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:22:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okOAZ-0001ji-HO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:20:31 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:60349) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okOAX-0004OT-8X; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:20:30 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.87.19.13]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D5E.00000000634D3A7A.0000188E; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 04:20:25 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <838rlf3tiz.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297952 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2022-10-17 08:33]: > > From: Richard Stallman > > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 16:51:34 -0400 > > > > See https://gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content. > > That section fails to suggest good replacements for this term, > AFAICT. Which makes that part of the article less useful than it > could be, perhaps. > > And, of course, we frequently say stuff like "file's contents" or > "buffer contents", which is perfectly OK, IMO. This usage is not > mentioned in that article, so someone, especially non-native speakers, > could think such uses are part of the problem -- perhaps another minor > issue that should be mentioned there, but isn't. The description on https://gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content speaks of works and publications, thus it does not relate to file contents or buffer contents which is something else but work or publication. Just the Emacs Info manual has many mentionings of "contents", in their correct context -- which is correct, as those are smaller pieces of information or data not referring to works or publications as whole. English Wordnet dictionary: * Overview of noun content The noun content has 7 senses (first 6 from tagged texts) 1. (12) content -- (everything that is included in a collection and that is held or included in something; "he emptied the contents of his pockets"; "the two groups were similar in content") 2. (8) message, content, subject matter, substance -- (what a communication that is about something is about) 3. (3) content -- (the proportion of a substance that is contained in a mixture or alloy etc.) 4. (2) capacity, content -- (the amount that can be contained; "the gas tank has a capacity of 12 gallons") 5. (2) content, cognitive content, mental object -- (the sum or range of what has been perceived, discovered, or learned) 6. (1) contentedness, content -- (the state of being contented with your situation in life; "he relaxed in sleepy contentedness"; "they could read to their heart's content") 7. subject, content, depicted object -- (something (a person or object or scene) selected by an artist or photographer for graphic representation; "a moving picture of a train is more dramatic than a still picture of the same subject") -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/