From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ;;;###autoload declarations Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:27:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <91a7W5OWdKtKD4A-ZeZZUeCLNTxNm82hYVDTZ-_uC1JiI1KzGZZVYF4HuUMdxyursZQ-CgIXKRziOKd2FRj9rL_7ADQ7Rjn7gu2CaCgSNA4=@proton.me> <87v8few484.fsf@web.de> <87pm5lr52f.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13315"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 24 13:28:43 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qD1Rb-0003Eg-7v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:28:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qD1Qz-0003UR-6a; Sat, 24 Jun 2023 07:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qD1Qw-0003Tu-50 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2023 07:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40135.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.135]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qD1Qr-0001Y0-Ay for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2023 07:28:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=a2p2ivhxlze2peiamtfaph55om.protonmail; t=1687606074; x=1687865274; bh=WjCH5iNFeHscDCIqiZ7C4n0dp+89hB47d3SS9H/SRRQ=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=jGMAOufG09VUVIMuqTs9L7lzpAXbp9+iwM32zxOkKtmhVzwRRTKSZclxRtex6XvB5 PdwI5qdYe7e2ezKGrzPLv36YctAjYlfV1NuhpE580UDq/BhU8mwPCr0UHXBk8JsVcD sHabettsuRo5ERaXn7XKlGnv6BB47/YUhcyRyMlSrG6fBliig4lLXAJsulqO8Rvjib DVJyr+oB/P6ALLoBmX1A44M057Z+7bMvJW0A/PTJIat63hqBo9JnWCMUoTgMsewOES tlI3xpPTXrDklWf+aT9XUEPv+0rHFGcRCwjNpL3uWcKEg1fm4OIkIugqxjDKQ8b9HU xsOomgjwjBPxA== In-Reply-To: <87pm5lr52f.fsf@web.de> Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.135; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-40135.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:144027 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Saturday, June 24th, 2023 at 2:02 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me writes: >=20 > > What is the procedure of using a loaddefs.el? >=20 >=20 > It's a file containing the autoload references. It's normally build > automatically - when building Emacs, installing packages, etc. And > normally loaded automatically at startup. >=20 > So it's a quite low-level mechanism not really useful for the end user. > Unless maybe, you generate a loaddefs file for a bunch of third-party > libraries that you want to use and you did not install them with package > manager or the OS. Then it may make sense to build a loaddefs file > yourself. >=20 > Michael. Would you see benefits in using a loaddefs file for those writing their own minor modes and customisation files ? Autoloading could be useful if thing= s could be made easier to set up.