From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ram via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: question regarding my emacs package Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 00:36:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <6cG8Tc55Zz8xk6rE6mJLfDxckAINPcYqp781yltsndzqq5146yw76EZ_2CoUtQT4P2j2afSx5VRD5G1-9qzFHWAW3LxYWwmxh87lvB2MgNE=@rj95.be> <6mCY9snoMM3JtwsTaSp34B-_9KfmBytTJID4gppHZ2B9xyTbkofc60vHD1qEI7WWpn2BwgaS1WaVjGJRatECpFJNbtUxg3FgqgcCBPnbD3s=@rj95.be> <87y1kpf4r0.fsf@posteo.net> <87legpeysm.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: ram Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="------9882aa46fca19d0838d777d8bb7b49474dc20413e7afeed84080869be2734d59"; charset=utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9208"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: joaotavora@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 13 04:23:30 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q8tgw-0002FP-3G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 04:23:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8tg5-00027J-Hi; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 22:22:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8s1Z-0003jY-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 20:36:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40136.proton.ch ([185.70.40.136]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8s1W-0006zn-JT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 20:36:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rj95.be; s=protonmail3; t=1686616588; x=1686875788; bh=tjI71svE2DdPWit8vR51uTWZ+Yf3LU7q1swbYl8OzYo=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=r/me1tmhxOTnb2W9ofzU78vy2yCIn5xN+zkS9/98V7CYfcvd8CuvjNYsC1VaHhnFx iyhqa2rbjlih7Fxlh/dXAczi7Wb49YV3dclLylPfu1ezhSHKksbbijpponHiaeYUtl 4y0zgKRYV4fI4sZCZYmnL1EkXpNIql67JnSGZLpZg7QZFrmp5DVfT0LOnEHR5jB5IU 9HST6cKRVp9h3W0QpcULY/TBeohjiDwaRbZpQPVrswYAAIyYk3VQO0ZH6aKPcNw251 1bd5p5kykX3Kep0lC2ojlMceKpAFOvqdc76YxSG+GJhluA0IOv1q+Rn1EgHNrj/8QI dwTt2vca2/yjA== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 10803195:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.136; envelope-from=chat@rj95.be; helo=mail-40136.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 22:22:32 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306760 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------9882aa46fca19d0838d777d8bb7b49474dc20413e7afeed84080869be2734d59 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="65ff4f7aa014bf87cc13faddcf3104883a1a7706" --65ff4f7aa014bf87cc13faddcf3104883a1a7706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US
i agree. fwiw i=E2=80=99m not= opposed to a name change if it comes to it 
=


On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 3:43 PM, = Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora <joaotavora@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
On Mon= , Jun 12, 2023 at 11:54=E2=80=AFAM Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net= > wrote:
>
> Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora <joaotavora@gmail.com&= gt; writes:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 9:45=E2=80=AFAM Ph= ilip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:

> > 1. There= is no name clash, as ram observed
> Yes, there is only the potential= for confusion.

If a name clash existed, you wouldn't just have conf= usion,
you'd have an integration problem in your hands.

> Oh, = I did not know that. Intuitively, I would argue that you tried to
> = reserve the name in the "core emacs/ELPA namespace" first.
> ...
&= gt; Arguing via stars is difficult, because on the one hand you are a well<= br>> known Elisp author and your packages are bound to attract more atte= ntion
> over a longer period of time, but we cannot deduce anything f= rom these
> facts.

Of course we can. We can infer from the a= mount of attention attracted
the number of users that have dispensed tha= t attention. The period
of time over which that amount of attention was= gathered and notoriety
of the author is irrelevant: all other things be= ing equal, you want to
know the number of users impacted at the time by = some hypothetical
administrative decision.

What I'm trying to tel= l you is two things: 1. I do agree with you that
some confusion is bound= to arise from the similarity in name, though
I'm not sure it warrants a= ny action: that is up to you or others. 2. If
you wish to tackle the pr= oblem via some specific action, it's much smarter
to consider the number= of users affected by that action rather than
considering who "reserved"= the name first.

Jo=C3=A3o
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