From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id EAmdOjsw1F9qbAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:51:39 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id sF1rNjsw1F8GWwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:51:39 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02C149402B0 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knv0T-0000mB-Tv for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:51:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knuzf-0000lz-Cm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:50:47 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:46997) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knuzd-0008CC-BT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:50:47 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.42]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002935DC.000000005FD43001.00007FD1; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 19:50:40 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 05:49:41 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Maxim Nikulin Subject: Re: Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files Message-ID: References: <87eejyedba.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.80 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 02C149402B0 X-Spam-Score: -1.80 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: DyO4T2FAk0aJ * Maxim Nikulin [2020-12-11 17:41]: > 2020-12-11 Jean Louis wrote: > > > > We have educational business where clients need to be brought to > > specific references quickly without reading all the book and without > > opening pages and wasting time. I can tell to staff members to copy 2 > > configuration files (.xpdfrc and script) in their corresponding target > > directories or to download them there, and run xpdf with specific key > > as a function where people press a key and describe or annotate the > > hyperlink. > > Frankly speaking, I have missed you point. I wrote that script evaluating > feasibility of getting more context for a quote from a PDF file. If you need > to point non-emacs users to particular place in some PDF file, browsers has > a button to obtain a link for current view (position, scale). I do not see > any problem to open local PDF files in browser. I have not checked however > if format of such links is the same for Firefox and Chrome. Relying on browser could be option here provided that browser can invoke extenral script. But thinking of my group of people, we use free software distributions as endorsed by FSF we do not have neither Firefox nor Chrome. I do not use it for freedom reasons https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html Maybe external groups could be handling it with other browsers, just thinking. Maybe browsers are much more complicated and not made for PDF browsing and speed of handling PDF with xpdf may be considerable. I have not explored browsers for PDF reference captures. I do like Evince, mupdf, zathura, but I will use any PDF viewer if I have to capture specific page in specific index in the dynamic knowledge repository on my computer. It will become possible to hire even 10-50 people at once worldwide who then capture index items and report to the database directly. Then I can get quickly indexed various PDF files at once which in turn help our clients to pass the crash course faster. While it is easy to teach people to open single program, press a key, and insert title, it is harder and time consuming to teach random people how to use Emacs. This may not be true, it is just my current impression. > As an even better approach, I consider merging of independently > stored PDF file and annotations to it and presenting combined file > with native PDF annotations. Several years ago I have not find tools > for such operations, maybe new projects have appeared since that > time. Evince: click clipboard icon on the top left side, add annotations, you can save it as independent file.