From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Emacs User Survey 2020 Results Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 00:08:51 +0300 Message-ID: References: <27f2aad6-2c1e-1127-bce6-5e96a241db56@gmx.com> <87a6umvgqg.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16119"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Adrien Brochard To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 09 22:13:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6mO-00042O-PC for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 22:13:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36702 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6mN-0005TP-K7 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:13:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6k8-00042v-Or for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:11:24 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:35481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6k6-00089T-J0 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:11:24 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E00D.000000005FD13D76.00005D07; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:11:18 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87a6umvgqg.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:466 Archived-At: * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2020-12-09 23:59]: > * That the default keybindings are just 2x as popular as the vim-a-like > key bindings. This one is really surprising to me, because we seldom > get bug reports about things in that corner. But perhaps they just work > perfectly? Bug report requires specific mind set and some experience, it also requires English, courage, not being shy, etc. Non English speaking people will rather skip it. Users may not know what is bug even if they see it. Only a small subset of users are sending bug reports. I would count for ever bug report other 1000-10000 people affected.