From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 20:00:15 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20201126182734.GA5175@tuxteam.de> <54331aa0-6a9a-4809-9f2d-88deee31558b@default> <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26711"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: Christopher Dimech , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 18:04:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kihB1-0006rQ-IJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 18:04:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kihB0-000780-HW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kih7t-0005D2-Vu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:01:42 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:44267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kih7q-0007LP-04 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:01:41 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.29]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0007.000000005FC130EE.00002149; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 17:01:34 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125670 Archived-At: * Arthur Miller [2020-11-27 19:43]: > I learned it through hacking init file, and I am not good at Emacs > internals, I don't have time to sitt hours and go through all > if-defs and thousands of lines of lisp. I wish I did. But when I > don't know how to do something, I ask, and if they tell me I don't > understand it or have missed it, I don't tell them they manual sux > or code is horribly structured. Sometimes error is in our selves, in > this case, Dimech is probably not used to read the technical manuals > and that's not more. I was asking different type of questions on #emacs IRC back in 2016, and back then I did not know hot to look into references to get myself Emacs insights. When one does not know where to look to there can be bunch of references but one cannot find it. Today I have different types of questions. There are progress stages for Emacs users. I can remember `info' and `man' from 1999 and 2000, I had confusion and did not understand why two systems. There was one time before that where I was learning GNU/Linux exclusively from books. At the time I did not know that `info' or `man' exists on system. On command line I tried with: $ help, but that brought me at that time incomprehensible list of bash commands. There are various stages that users pass through until they get it. Jean