From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45072: 28.0.50; Emacs switches other buffer back uncontrollably, if other window's buffer is changed by user during minibuffer editing Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 19:14:12 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87eek1fvgf.fsf@gnus.org> <83eek18ref.fsf@gnu.org> <835z5d8lhc.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfe8jsok.fsf@gnus.org> <9286deee-b549-0441-9571-e7d712c5fdd5@gmx.at> <83eek0701j.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11312"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 45072@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 08 17:21:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfk3-0002oy-Jp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 17:21:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53912 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfk1-0000hN-Cq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:21:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfdo-00069M-0a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:15:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47770) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfdm-0004uh-PX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfdm-0007xa-DK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:15:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 16:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45072 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45072-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45072.160744408430561 (code B ref 45072); Tue, 08 Dec 2020 16:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45072) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 16:14:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59316 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfdU-0007wr-BR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:14:44 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:40021) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfdS-0007wd-Bc for 45072@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:14:42 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.57]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C1B08.000000005FCFA66C.00003A24; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 16:14:35 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83eek0701j.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:195380 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2020-12-08 19:09]: > > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 17:58:40 +0300 > > From: Jean Louis > > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii , > > 45072@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I would prefer by default not to switch windows for me as if I am user > > and switched the other buffer why would I need it automatically back? > > I switched it because I do not need it. > > > > Please understand how it is to work in a loop in minibuffer, many > > coordinates have to be entered carefully and various maps consulted, > > and then even though buffers were switched there and back on each new > > invocation of minibuffer prompt all those buffers go away. > > > > >From the view point of having user control, I would rather have that > > option turned off by default. > > I understand your POV, but we cannot possibly change such a > long-standing behavior by default. It must start as an opt-in > behavior. Later, when enough people tried it and said they'd like it > to be the default, we might start thinking about making it the > default. I totally and generally agree on the approach not to change default. It is just opinion, I would not change defaults as it would influence many.