From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: night-mode? Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 22:38:00 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87zh3awu11.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuth6c30.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83mtz9xvzw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6177"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Juri Linkov , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 23 20:47:08 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khHnn-0001SX-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 20:47:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45996 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khHnm-0004CX-B6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57096) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khHlQ-0002q9-Tx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:44:40 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:48641) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khHlO-0006Fr-MR; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:44:40 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.56]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C1AE9.000000005FBC1124.00000BE7; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 19:44:35 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259694 Archived-At: * Arthur Miller [2020-11-23 20:07]: > > Now I can change to any built-in theme and it needs 2-3 seconds > > to accommodate the eyes and I am fine. But I do not change my default > > face, so more or less only colors change. > Isn't that what I am talking about :-). Brain needs a bit of time to > adapt. Alright. I know what you feel as some time back I was more stressed with the theme change, not just that I could not adapt after 2-3 seconds, I could not adapt at all and I would even delete the theme. This personal behavior changed into being adaptable to built-in themes and not wasting time with any external themes. Guess what, now is night, lights are on, and I use plain white background that stubbornly contradicts the meaning of night-mode. > > I would be using more EXWM if there would be no swapping > > problems or maybe memory leaks preventing me to use long sessions, > > bugs which are now being researched. > > Indeed, I would really like to have everythign in same process, so I > could C-x C-b between other X11 windows just as I can between Emacs > buffers, but I am affraid of Emacs locking me out of desktop. EXWM works just well. One need to know that external programs should be launched with M-& and not with M-! as that would block. In general I can watch embeded video within Emacs session and move that buffer to something else when I fish, screen can be tiled as Emacs is tiled. Desktop I do not know what is meaning of it, I know that people use Windows to place stuff on virtual desktop. I protest against the automatic creation of ~/Desktop in my file system and it is empty directory I delete from time to time. Do you mean that? Either I am using IceWM that has no icons on the root screen, or I use EXWM. For icons on the root screen I can use rox filer with option -p and with it I can have unlimited desktop settings if desktop means ordered directories or files on the root screen. > > > Good, only that I do not have efficiency, I am mostlyu using T410 or > > T400 Thinkpad and maybe that is why. It is fast on desktop. > If you use an old laptop, shouldn't you bee worried about efficiency > even more? I mean as few extras and as tiny things as you can? My > current emacs init starts in around ~0.2 secs. For you is old, for me is just fine. I am worried of programs being developed in such a way that I have to have faster and faster computer to run them. Terrible condition. I would buy some new laptop would it be possible to liberate the BIOS from non-free software.