From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Best Emacs Mail client. Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 10:21:18 +0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5950"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 15 08:58:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1keCvp-0001Qq-27 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:58:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53410 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1keCvo-0008GT-4i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 02:58:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53126) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1keCvV-0008Eg-34 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 02:58:21 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:50497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1keCvT-0007jr-Bx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 02:58:20 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.56]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0005.000000005FB0DF9A.00000C63; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 07:58:17 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/15 02:58:10 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125268 Archived-At: * 황병희 [2020-11-15 07:06]: > "M.R.P. zensky" writes: > > > Hello I wondering what the best mail client is for me to use. I do not > > want to use gnus. I just want a really good mail client that can > > handle pop and map. Can Rmail support POP and Imap? Should I look > > elsware? > > > > Suddenly i did rise think up some email client: > ===> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/mh-e.html > > Gnus is the world best, then mh-e second best mailer! > > Sincerely, Gnus and MH-E fan Byung-Hee mh-e is powerful email client bult-in into Emacs. I would be using it if I would have too few emails. I have 50000+ Maildir folders relating to 50000+ conversations and many more email messages. Maildir format is number one choice for me, and I wish Emacs could be able to handle that, but it does not. https://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html So the email client of choice for me is mutt running within M-x ansi-term or M-x term or M-x vterm. So far only vterm is handling terminal issues correctly. References: https://www.mutt.org and https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/wikis/home Vterm: https://github.com/akermu/emacs-libvterm My strategy for handling emails is that each email address has its Maildir folder. That means by one key press in Mutt (by configuration) I can access all previous conversations related to that email address. It is blazing fast compared to anything I have tested in Emacs and I have tested them all. Mutt supports emacsclient, so one can write in mutt within Emacs terminal and use Emacs to write emails, it means that new frame is not opening on X unless -c option is used for emacsclient I really tried over last 20 years to use Emacs as email client and it never satisfied my demand for speed and quick handling of emails as Mutt does.