From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 13:39:05 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20201103104340.q34kqfita55w2u7h@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201103111507.mpfijvlv3kodauxm@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201103171244.2wpalolm5qrfc5pg@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201103211312.grkaloqedpj7anbn@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201104085425.te4qwhnrjclchq7b@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2307"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ (1036f0e) (2020-10-18) Cc: Emacs-Devel List To: Boruch Baum Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 04 11:40:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kaGDV-0000Pf-63 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 11:40:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59118 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaGDU-0001zD-7x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 05:40:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44020) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaGC9-0000w4-Q0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 05:39:13 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:35595) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaGC7-0004QW-KA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 05:39:13 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.30]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0D02.000000005FA284CC.00002EA3; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 10:39:08 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/04 02:57:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258672 Archived-At: Hello Boruch, This time I started with Emacs without doing my usual stuff. I did not check it, only I think you are invoking bash that does not read my .bashrc while M-x shell, does read it. So I got different prompt instead of my prompt. You would need to review those compiler warnings as for example {M-x diredc-mode-map RET} is mentioned there and cannot be found. First thing I usually do is looing into are keybindings explained with the {C-h m} and of course I can look into the source. My review is from viewpoint of users, not from my personal view point. https://gnu.support/images/2020/11/2020-11-04/2020-11-04-13:01:29.ogv {M-x diredc RET} worked well as I used only TAB as you can see, nothing much. I would not like using it for operations as it is not refined. Apparently {M-x diredc-recover} (recover what?!) removed all diredc buffers and I finished video. Then I moved to left workspace and found one dangling diredc buffer, so I killed it. It did not remove everything. My notation with curly brackets { } is handy to be activated by using M-x RET within GNU Hyperbole package. During writing of this email I have invoked {M-x diredc RET} again and I could see this email frame going to front and diredc buffer appearing below the frame buffer. For me that is not handy, as if I wish or need something, I need it in front of me, not behind papers. Colors are not visible and do not help me. What is directory and what is not I get with the {C-h v RET dired-listing-switches RET} being set to: -gohl --group-directories-first so I can ee directories anyway in some colors, being listed first. On BSD systems this does not work. My settings is with: (windmove-default-keybindings 'super) so I am anyway switching way easier then just {C-x o} in dired buffer, I click Super key and arrow to which direction I wish to move. I got surprised that Dired does not use TAB key for at least something useful. Like you have made it to switch to other window, or to maybe switch both windows. I can say it is +1 for TAB switching and quick shell opening. This gives me ideas for key bindings. For those other features... nothing to say yet. Jean