From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Modifier Keys and the Archaic Meta Key, term keyboard becoming archaic soon Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:37:42 +0300 Organization: GNU.Support Message-ID: References: <64F19108-F8EA-4D43-ADA2-F002B37C60FE@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ (1036f0e) (2020-10-18) Cc: Help Gnu Emacs , Francis Belliveau To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 26 16:49:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kX4kK-0002Le-JY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:49:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57492 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX4kJ-0004Nr-KJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:49:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX4js-0004Mp-QO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:48:52 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:46045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX4jr-0003Wr-C0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:48:52 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.60]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001214D.000000005F96EFC1.00007E15; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:48:17 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/26 11:47:59 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124722 Archived-At: - keyboard For the reason that there are so many computers today without keyboards, it would be very late to change M-x to something else, as keyboards will soon disappear as well. All the work of changing the M-x terminology will be in vain. * Overview of noun keyboard The noun keyboard has 2 senses (first 1 from tagged texts) 1. (2) keyboard -- (device consisting of a set of keys on a piano or organ or typewriter or typesetting machine or computer or the like) 15. key -- (a lever (as in a keyboard) that actuates a mechanism when depressed) On billions of computers today like tables and phones there is no mechanism and there is no lever on so many mobile devices that use virtual "keyboards". Same trend is expected to come to what is called "desktop" computers (desktop may be obsolete as well). Those who report bugs for Emacs while using mobile devices such as tablets and phones should be seriously warned not to use the obsolete term "keyboard". Neither the Emacs manual nor Emacs was ever made to support "virtual keyboards". Users of mobile devices should be disadvised to send Emacs complaints while using the incorrect and obsolete term "keyboard" as that increases chances of blame that Emacs key bindings cause repetitive strain injureis. Finally, there are no key bindings on such devices simply because they do not have keys. Those getting repetitive strain injuries on a "virtual keyboard" shall be diagnosed having virtual repetitive strain injury. It will be questionable if that will be justification for a sick pay.