From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB" Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 21:57:05 +0300 Message-ID: References: <875z6sgqvh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83eelgb00t.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6w4lzh5.fsf@gnus.org> <837dr8aqog.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg9wkkk6.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6w2qlqc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878sblgvdn.fsf@gnus.org> <329AE9D0-14BB-477E-AA7F-FC5852F67A7E@acm.org> <83tuu9f6ha.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38295"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ (1036f0e) (2020-10-18) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= , juri@linkov.net, stefankangas@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, jidanni@jidanni.org, 44273@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 01 19:58:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIYM-0009rj-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 19:58:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35756 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIYL-0007rI-8q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:58:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIYE-0007r8-Pu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIYE-00072U-HE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIYE-0000ph-Ge for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:58:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44273 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix patch Original-Received: via spool by 44273-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44273.16042570313144 (code B ref 44273); Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44273) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2020 18:57:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38513 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIXP-0000oe-92 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:57:11 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:56173) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIXN-0000oW-V5 for 44273@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.60]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0B3E.000000005F9F0503.000013C1; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:57:07 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83tuu9f6ha.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192437 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2020-11-01 18:22]: > This actually means that this value provides information that is not > directly available in the file sizes. So it is useful. > > I find the notion that we should remove from display a useful quantity > just because it might be tricky to interpret in some situation, > especially by people who are not proficient in this stuff. 'ls' shows > it, and Dired isn't supposed to lose stuff that 'ls -al' provides. Instead of blocks users can set it up "human readable" with ls -alh option or similar: dired-listing-switches is a variable defined in ‘dired.el’. Its value is "-gohl --group-directories-first" Original value was "-al" You can customize this variable. Then there is more practical display: total used in directory 1.4G available 24.8 GiB