From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Reply-To -> CC? Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 14:49:22 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87pn352ogh.fsf@web.de> <20201222124834.GC11075@no.workgroup> <87y2hprthx.fsf@web.de> <87o8ilrmze.fsf@web.de> <87pn31ym6g.fsf@iki.fi> <87mty4zsib.fsf@iki.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33820"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 23 12:50:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ks2em-0008ek-Gf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:50:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48144 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks2el-0004qC-J3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 06:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34120) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks2eI-0004pu-Co for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 06:49:46 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:35411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks2eG-0002ht-6S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 06:49:45 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.37]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000018181.000000005FE32ED4.00005F71; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 04:49:40 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Jean Louis , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mty4zsib.fsf@iki.fi> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126690 Archived-At: * Teemu Likonen [2020-12-23 14:11]: > * 2020-12-23 13:43:04+0300, Jean Louis wrote: > If one is sending a message to a random (non-hacker) person one just > can't rely on special hacker client features like "Mail-Followup-To" or > "reply to list". Those things don't exist outside our bubble. There are > only "reply to sender" and "reply to all". Sorry, but is not like that. Those things do exist in our bubble which is named Emacs. Mail headers or message fields are used by users in the settings of email, there is nothing so complicated to say it is "hacker client" feature as it is not. Just as you define your From email address you may also define mailing list email addresses that your email client recognizes such mailing lists and inserts Mail-Followup-To -- so it is just about settings. It is already built into Emacs and is nothing special or hacker feature. /package/text/emacs/share/emacs/28.0.50/lisp $ zgrep -i mail-followup-to * ldefs-boot.el: \\[mail-mail-followup-to] move to Mail-Followup-To: ldefs-boot.el:The variable is used to trigger insertion of the \"Mail-Followup-To\" loaddefs.el: \\[mail-mail-followup-to] move to Mail-Followup-To: loaddefs.el:The variable is used to trigger insertion of the \"Mail-Followup-To\" and it is in Gnus, message-mode, and in mml-mode or MIME meta language mode. message-use-mail-followup-to is a variable defined in ‘message.el’. Its value is ‘use’ You can customize this variable. This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in version 22.1 of Emacs. Documentation: Specifies what to do with Mail-Followup-To header. If nil, always ignore the header. If it is the symbol ‘ask’, always query the user whether to use the value. If it is the symbol ‘use’, always use the value. There are other variables and settings related to Mail-Followup-To Mail-Followup-To is related to mailing list and how recipient answers to the user who has set the Mail-Followup-To. So if user does set Mail-Followup-To your email client should, if compliant to it, honor the request and not answer to the author of the message but extract mailing list address from anywhere like To or Cc fields and use the mailing list address that is specified in the Mail-Followup-To That is long time already implemented in many software. Look: https://www.leptonite.org/mft/software.html