From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: security-patches package Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87wp55t0un.fsf@petton.fr> <87tw07kikp.fsf@gnu.org> <161eff40ff05df7d5577e2456baa1676.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <87a81xhxh0.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87tw02hcd1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877ewr253f.fsf@russet.org.uk> <878th32hzx.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506341629 10025 195.159.176.226 (25 Sep 2017 12:13:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:13:49 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 25 14:13:38 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwSGW-0001w9-Ny for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 14:13:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42194 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwSGd-00086u-Sh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:13:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40447) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwSFq-00086B-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwSFm-0005kd-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.84]:39114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwSFm-0005hA-Gs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: (Haraka outbound); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:12:41 +0100 Authentication-Results: mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=newcastle.ac.uk X-Haraka-RcptSummary: valid=0/0 invalid=0/0 unverified=0/0 relay=1/1 norelay=0/0 X-Haraka-Relay: true Received-SPF: Pass (mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk: domain of newcastle.ac.uk designates 10.3.193.34 as permitted sender) receiver=mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk; identity=mailfrom; client-ip=10.3.193.34; helo=mailhub-ncl4; envelope-from= Original-Received: from mailhub-ncl4 ([10.3.193.34]) by mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk (DefenderMX/2.7.3) with ESMTPS id E620D3D2-1B8C-4BF6-92BB-5A239C3F39E5.1 envelope-from (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:12:41 +0100 Original-Received: from smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.91]) by mailhub-ncl4 with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwSFc-0001RP-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:12:40 +0100 Original-Received: from 17dcompd001.ncl.ac.uk ([10.70.40.123] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwSFc-0000i0-Ie; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:12:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:12:47 -0400") X-NCL-mrate: cflags=() mflags=() X-Haraka-Syntax: mail_case=upper mail_leading_spaces=N mail_trailing_spaces=N mail_missing_brackets=N rcpt_case=upper rcpt_leading_spaces=N rcpt_missing_brackets=N rcpt_trailing_spaces=N X-Haraka-HostID: 10.3.193.34 X-Haraka-SenderAuth: 10.3.193.34 newcastle.ac.uk X-Haraka-AccessMap: connect:10 OK X-Haraka-Domain-Info: domain="russet.org.uk" last_update=219 primary_ns="dns5.planethippo.com" serial=2017021810 refresh=3600 retry=7200 expiration=1209600 minimum=86400 flags="NS_SINGLE_IP, MX_IS_NS, MX_SINGLE" domain="newcastle.ac.uk" last_update=2 primary_ns="dns0.ncl.ac.uk" serial=2017092304 refresh=10800 retry=3600 expiration=604800 minimum=3600 flags="SOA_UPDATE_7" X-Haraka-SubjectNonLatin: 0 X-Haraka-NonLatin: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 128.240.234.84 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218767 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Changing ELPA to auto-update the archive would be a good thing to do, I >> think. > > I'm firmly opposed to making any program initiate network connections > without explicit user request. The middle-ground is to ask people first time, then auto-update/not-update into the future. Phil