From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kelly Dean Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19513: shift-select-mode fails to be fully buffer-local Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:20:11 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420572166 11009 80.91.229.3 (6 Jan 2015 19:22:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19513@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 06 20:22:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Zi6-0007AG-M8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:22:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37924 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Zi5-0004Fp-VV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:22:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Zhd-0003wK-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:22:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Zha-0008Vi-3h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57764) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8ZhZ-0008Ve-V2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8ZhZ-0005zz-MB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:22:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Kelly Dean Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19513 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19513-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19513.142057206522989 (code B ref 19513); Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19513) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2015 19:21:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Zge-0005yj-N2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:21:05 -0500 Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:39747) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Zgc-0005yS-DD for 19513@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter34-d.gandi.net (mfilter34-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.165]) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D19FB87D; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:21:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter34-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]) by mfilter34-d.gandi.net (mfilter34-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LMDNTMyuKFKa; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:21:00 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 162.248.99.114 Original-Received: from localhost (114-99-248-162-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net [162.248.99.114]) (Authenticated sender: kelly@prtime.org) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD5BFFB8B9; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:20:58 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98069 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > The same behavior shows up if you do (in "emacs -Q"): > > C-SPC next S-next > > and you see that the S-next ended the previous selection and started > a new one. Some might see it as a feature (I don't know if it was > implemented this way on purpose or by accident). > > If we see it as a bug the right answer is probably to change > shift-select-mode such that shifted-motion doesn't start a new > shift-selection if we're already in the middle of an > "old-style" selection. If that's a bug, then it's a different one; it isn't the behavior that #1= 9513 is about. But if it is a bug, and gets fixed, then it appears shift-= select would no longer interfere with line-select (which uses =E2=80=9Fol= d-style=E2=80=9D selection), so I'd have no need to buffer-locally disabl= e shift-select, which means I wouldn't care if #19513 is never fixed. > Since you have shift-select-mode disabled globally, you shouldn't > care anyway, so I guess you're doing this in response to complaints fro= m > users of vimizer. If so, do they usually use shift-select-mode? I'm the only user of vimizer. I haven't sent it to a package repository y= et, because I only recently had time to disentangle it from the rest of m= y custom code and make a standalone package, and I need to dogfood it for= a while to make sure I didn't introduce any new bugs. When I do send it,= other people won't want to have to globally disable shift-select. > If not, maybe the right answer is to tell them they should disable > shift-select-mode. Right now, line-select does say it's incompatible with shift-select, and = refuses to turn on unless shift-select is disabled. But that's a poor wor= karound.