From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Kelly Dean" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19471: Emacs can't copy text Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:53:52 +0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419933448 10624 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2014 09:57:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:57:28 +0000 (UTC) To: 19471@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 30 10:57:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tYG-0006Nm-R9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 10:57:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36298 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tYB-0001Sz-8E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:57:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tY2-0001Ms-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:57:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXy-0008Du-G3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:57:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXy-0008Db-CF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXy-0005w4-1D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:57:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Kelly Dean" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 19471 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.141993338422752 (code B ref -1); Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2014 09:56:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXL-0005uu-KG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:56:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXI-0005uj-HJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:56:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXH-0007ky-9G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:56:20 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXH-0007ku-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:56:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXG-0001KP-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:56:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXC-0007k9-6c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:56:18 -0500 Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::198]:44031) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5tXC-0007jt-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:56:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter22-d.gandi.net (mfilter22-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.150]) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369ADFB87F for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 10:56:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter22-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]) by mfilter22-d.gandi.net (mfilter22-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5rnzYMzkQ5wj for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 10:56:11 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 162.248.99.114 Original-Received: from localhost (114-99-248-162-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net [162.248.99.114]) (Authenticated sender: kelly@prtime.org) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CFD8FB8C7 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 10:55:04 +0100 (CET) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97829 Archived-At: Do: C-h i g (elisp)translation keymaps RET C-HOME C-SPACE DOWN M-w C-x b foo RET C-y What it looks like you copied is =E2=8C=9C(elisp)Top > Keymaps > Translat= ion Keymaps=E2=8C=9D. But when you paste it, you instead get =E2=8C=9CFile: elisp.info, Node: Translation Keymaps, Next: Key Binding= Commands, Prev: Remapping Commands, Up: Keymaps=E2=8C=9D I suppose that's rational in some twisted sense, but it's unreasonable us= er-unfriendliness for a text editor. See my message =E2=8C=9CRe: Correspondence between web-pages and Info-pag= es=E2=8C=9D in emacs-devel for why this matters. I tried switching the buffer to fundamental mode in order to copy the tex= t, but that didn't solve the problem, so Emacs apparently has some kind o= f low-level text-mangling voodoo that hijacks kill-ring-save. Yes, the Info page name is effectively like an HTML page title, and web b= rowsers don't let you copy the title either, at least not without some sp= ecial effort. But at least web browsers don't mislead you by letting you = select the title text and perform an apparently-successful copy operation= , which you only discover copied the wrong text when you try to paste it.