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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opening multiple files in a single buffer?
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 07:29:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB4526FF72F71920AA4247D616969F0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2006132226040.28861@sdf.lonestar.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sat, 13 Jun 2020 20:42:47 +0000")

Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org> writes:

>>
>>> Indeed, but that's not the point.  As I said what I'm proposing is a way to
>>> do some things more easily (for some users).  Everything that could be done
>>> with such a feature can already be done in other ways. I don't use the
>>> menu-bar, the tool-bar, customize, or the menus on the mode-line. But I do
>>> not consider that they are useless.  All these features make it possible to
>>> do things more easily (for some users), that can already be done in other
>>> ways.
>>
>> Before you decide to dive into this, I would suggest doing a test run by
>> writing a simple script to cat the files together with a separator and 
>> edit that file with something like search and replace or bounce around in
>> various places making edits.  I have vague memories that when buffers get
>> extremely big, emacs slows down considerably but my memories are not clear
>> enough to recall the exact circumstances.
>>
>> Perhaps one of the emacs maintainers can jump in and comment.  Is emacs going
>> to be more efficient with several “small” buffers rather than one extremely
>> large buffer.  Some of the people commenting are wanting to load up an entire
>> project into a single buffer.  As I recall, that is going to be very
>> unfriendly to use.
>>
>
> That's not correct.  On my laptop, I can easily edit a 100 (one hundred) MB text
> file, Emacs is almost as reactive as with a 1 KB text file.  Of course some
> operations take more time, e.g. a query-replace-regexp on the whole buffer, but
> from what I see (on my laptop it takes about four seconds, with a regexp) I
> doubt that it takes more time than hundred query-replace-regexp in a 1 MB file,
> or for that matter than doing this with dired on hundred 1 MB files.
>
> Gregory
I think it depends on content in those files as well as of size.

Try to edit some of those two files: https://github.com/amno1/Plato ,
possibly Plato.org. Don't just display them, but try to actually put
some text note in it or add/remove some whitespace or whatever. Jump to
some paragraph and insert a new line and see how long it takes. Then try
to do same in Atom text editor.

My Emacs takes quite some time even to add a white space char while Atom
has not problems whatsoever. I  run on 6700K i7 cpu + 32 gig 3000Mhz
ram.

I don't know what the problem is, if it is just my Emacs config or
actually underlaying data structure (Gap buffer vs linked structure optimized
for changes - their "Superstring").



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-14  5:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-13 14:31 Opening multiple files in a single buffer? Gregory Heytings
2020-06-13 15:20 ` Douglas Lewan
2020-06-13 16:53   ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-13 15:21 ` tomas
2020-06-13 15:36   ` Douglas Lewan
2020-06-13 15:53     ` tomas
2020-06-13 15:49 ` Jakub Jankiewicz
2020-06-13 16:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-14 11:11   ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-15  8:26   ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-15  9:33     ` tomas
2020-06-15  9:52       ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-15 10:58         ` tomas
2020-06-15 12:48     ` Joost Kremers
2020-06-15 14:24       ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-15 14:41     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-15 12:21   ` Sergey Organov
2020-06-15 15:26   ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-15 15:31     ` Perry Smith
2020-06-13 18:10 ` Dan Hitt
2020-06-13 18:41   ` Jakub Jankiewicz
2020-06-13 18:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-13 19:22     ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-13 19:45       ` Perry Smith
2020-06-13 20:42         ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-14  5:29           ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2020-06-14  7:12             ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-14  7:45               ` Arthur Miller
2020-06-14 20:14                 ` Gregory Heytings
2020-06-15  6:58                   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-06-13 19:31   ` Stefan Monnier

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