From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Arthur Miller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251614 Archived-At: Alan Third writes: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:45:28PM +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >> On 28.05.2020 20:19, Karl Fogel wrote: >> > It would only do this the first time a user does `find-file' on a directory? Or would it be every time? >> >> Someday, we could also turn on fido-mode by default. There, RET means enter >> a directory. And/or pick the first suggestion. >> >> It's a decent behavior for long-times users as well, since C-j provides an >> override. > > This seems like a reasonable solution to me. Alternatively perhaps we > just need to sell C-x C-f as "open a file or directory" rather than > "find a file"? I think you are spot on there. I don't think many people today think of directories as just "files", so directory part of "find file" gets lost for some. BTW, how about selling it as "Find file or directory"?