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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255863 Archived-At: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > I just meant the "custom-themes"=20 > infrastructure should be enough to accommodate enough of=20 > the proposed "modern-mode". Not sure if it is (as I don't use it). No, it is not. It lacks unified framework to use as logicla names for color use; someting similar to what you have in

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, ... in html, just as example. Instead people use rgb values directly in their packages, and when user changes a theme, packages does not follow. So theme engine in Emacs needs a little additional work. > I'm=20 > almost always wary of giants or grand reinventions of things. > For the "base" Emacs experience that is, in their setups people=20 > can use all the ivys, dooms, helms and magits they want. I understand your sentiment, but then, you could say this for any feature, inclusive fido-mode or icomplete or even find-file. Just as an illustration one could argue that "simpler" open-file as found in other software packages is what "casual" users would expext. Personally I would like to see ffap being enabled as default ...=20