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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253678 Archived-At: writes: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 03:41:25AM +0000, arthur miller wrote: >> I share your sentiment about using different mail provider. Personally I= have >> gmail and outlook (live) accounts, but I would rather skip both if I cou= ld. >> Alternative to me is what my ISP offers, but that changes when I switch = ISP so >> it is not a "stable" as gmail/outlook. I think that my current ISP does = not >> even offer email service, but I am not sure. >>=20 >> I would gladly pay for a "free" email service that guarantees my privacy= , so somebody should hint FSF/GNU people for possible business opportunity = here :-). > > There are. Depending on your tastes, riseup.net might qualify > (those are even voluntary contribution). That was an interesting offer! On paper that sounds awesome, question is how long-lasting they will be. Second - who the heck they are? Being born in a communist/socialist country I am a bit suspect of their left-rhetorics and anonymous "collective". I do share their ideas, sentiments and values, but they are completely anoynomous and thus non-transparent, so how can I trust them? Actually I wrote paragraph about my opinion on how essential is for communication to be free for a democracy to thrive, but then I erased it before I posted it; thought it was unnecessary with politics and my personal beliefs on emacs-dev list. > Over here in Germany, posteo.de and mailbox.org come to mind. > > Search locally: most of those offers aren't "big names" for a > reason. You might be correct. I haven't really being looking around myself. But I would still prefer to help monetary some organisation I trust (like FSF/GNU). >> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min Samsung Galaxy-smartphone. > > Hey, your phone is posting ads here! Tell him to behave ;-) > > Cheers > - tom=C3=A1s Interesting how information is interpretted. I would rather say this was a pure statement from my phone rather then an ad: it didn't say - go by me! :-). (I was at the go, didn't have access to Emacs :-)).