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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>,
	Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	"self@gkayaalp.com" <self@gkayaalp.com>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"mardani29@yahoo.es" <mardani29@yahoo.es>,
	"akrl@sdf.org" <akrl@sdf.org>
Subject: Re: A modern-mode?
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 06:50:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB45263DE163EC410A923F0F6C963F0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB452616E15ACA5DFBA70214EC963E0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (arthur miller's message of "Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:54:56 +0000")

arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:

> Can't customize already show ui to turn on/off features without showing elisp? 
>
> Can't there be just a customize group or page where people can turn on/off features and similar?  What makes theme more
> suitable?
>
> I am sorry if I am a tad bit obnoxious, my goal is not to be negative, just "thinking loud".
>
> -------- Originalmeddelande --------
> Från: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> 
> Datum: 2020-09-17 21:43 (GMT+01:00) 
> Till: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org> 
> Kopia: arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com>, Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com>, self@gkayaalp.com, akrl@sdf.org, Eli
> Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, mardani29@yahoo.es, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org> 
> Ämne: Re: A modern-mode? 
>
>>> By the way, why would anyone turn off features and then recreate
>>> them in their init file? It seems like very convoluted use case to
>>> me.
>> As opposed to turning on features with a theme then turning them off
>> again in their init file?
>> I've seen enough people ask how to implement spacemacs/doom features
>> in vanilla Emacs to know that this happens.
>
> BTW one of the advantages of themes is also that we could provide a UI
> that displays the various elements of that theme (without having to show
> ELisp code).
>
>         Stefan

Sorry, I have been looking into manual about themes and custom.el; sure
theme can do anything so I understand it now :-).

"Custom themes are collections of settings that can be enabled or
disabled as a unit. You can use Custom themes to switch easily between
various collections of settings, and to transfer such collections from
one computer to another. "

".... loading a Custom theme can execute arbitrary Lisp code ..."

"To apply the choice of theme(s) to future Emacs sessions, type C-x C-s
(custom-theme-save) or use the ‘[Save Theme Settings]’ button."

So indeed  it can be used for anything. Though I would rather call
such theme for a "mode" but that would be really a confusion since Emacs
modes are different things.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-18  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 14:41 A modern-mode? Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 14:51 ` Ergus
2020-09-16  0:16   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-15 15:26   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:34   ` Teemu Likonen
2020-09-15 18:36   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 21:08     ` Antoine Kalmbach
2020-09-16  4:15     ` Teemu Likonen
2020-09-16  7:52       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:13 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:31   ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-09-15 15:56 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-15 16:47 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
     [not found]   ` <a4bc94ca-3130-463a-bd79-3dbffbbce492@default>
2020-09-15 17:11     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 17:32       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 17:35       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 18:47   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 20:48     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  0:07       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  8:58         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  9:03           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 10:39           ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 10:47             ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:20           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16  5:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16  7:27   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  7:36     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16  8:36       ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 14:37         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16 15:00           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:22             ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17  3:54         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 10:30       ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 11:17         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 14:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 14:46             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 21:53               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-16 15:33               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 15:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 15:54                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 16:17                     ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 16:32                       ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-16 16:45                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 16:30                   ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 16:45                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 22:11                     ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 21:54               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 15:27               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:45                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17  3:58                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17  4:45                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17  9:54                       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-09-18  4:09                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 16:45             ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:47               ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 18:19         ` Daniel Martín
2020-09-16 18:45           ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 18:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 20:02               ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 21:36                 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17  0:11                   ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:17                     ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-17 19:54                         ` arthur miller
2020-09-18  4:50                           ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2020-09-17  3:18                   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 21:48                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-17  3:53       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16  8:15     ` Ergus
2020-09-16  7:33   ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-16  8:55     ` tomas
2020-09-16  9:36   ` João Távora
2020-09-16  9:48     ` tomas
2020-09-16  9:54       ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:20         ` tomas
2020-09-16 10:30           ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:53             ` tomas
2020-09-16 11:09               ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:40             ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 13:04               ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:10                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:26                   ` João Távora
2020-09-16 15:43                     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 15:45                       ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:20                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 16:42               ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:46                 ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:28                   ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:47                     ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 12:32       ` Arthur Miller
     [not found] <<xjfmu1rrtks.fsf@sdf.org>
     [not found] ` <<E1kIPmO-0001u5-0m@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-09-16 14:37   ` Drew Adams

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