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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250582 Archived-At: Yuan Fu writes: >>=20 >> 2- If Emacs is installed, often is not able to compile because the user >> has possibly no write privileges on the folder where the compiler is >> trying to output the eln. Either we switch this feature off in this >> case or we go for a different directory model. > > It=E2=80=99s also possible that the user doesn=E2=80=99t the proper versi= on of gcc & libgccjit. > > Yuan Yeah that happened to me when I was compiling it once on update 7, after my system updated GCC, but libgccjit is not updated automatically, I have to fetch it and compile it manually (Arch Linux).