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From: arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Sv: Sv: Sv: Christmas wish: Literate Elisp
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 05:52:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1P194MB0429B7A8C54CDE394DCEAD4F962C0@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADs++6iFC6CequWQgbPhxO2X+85Q1N9GzLVUAY4CKx52mRVUJA@mail.gmail.com>

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> In my experience hanging out at the #emacs channel at Freenode and
> asking for help or hints on elisp is fun, and it's easy to test ideas
> interactively with C-x C-e...

Indeed, completely agree!

> I don't know how to recompile Emacs after a change in
> a .c and restart it in less that 30 seconds

I don't know either 🙂. It take me about 2 - 3 minutes every time to recompile.
I have my emacs src from github and I just run make -j4 after a change. I don't
run full build. I then run emacs from src folder with -Q flag and test file as
argument.

>  wget -O bytecomp.patch https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/txtkIKP0OSag7.txt
>  wget -O lread.patch    https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/txttFA8rLAthl.txt
> wget -O chatty.el      https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/txt6f3pEXMWNI.txt

You will also need simple.patch. Contains a variable to turn off/on parser in eval so you
can just eval-buffer or eval-region.

Cool if you test! I would be glad to hear opinions on the idea of literal elisp. (Please I am aware of opinions on
implementation 🙂).


  # Apply the patches in /tmp/:
  cd /tmp/
  cp -v ~/bigsrc/emacs/src/lread.c                 /tmp/
  cp -v ~/bigsrc/emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/bytecomp.el /tmp/
  # (find-man "1 patch")
  patch lread.c     lread.patch
  patch bytecomp.el bytecomp.patch

  # If they applied cleanly, copy the patched files back:
  cp -v /tmp/lread.c     ~/bigsrc/emacs/src/lread.c
  cp -v /tmp/bytecomp.el ~/bigsrc/emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/bytecomp.el

  # Rebuild Emacs.
  # I usually skip some of the steps below - my way of executing
  # these scripts line by line from Emacs is explained here:
  #   http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2019.html
  #   http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-quick-intro.html#6

  rm -Rfv  ~/bigsrc/emacs/
  mkdir -p ~/bigsrc/emacs/
  cd       ~/bigsrc/
  git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs<http://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs>

  cd       ~/bigsrc/emacs/
  time ./autogen.sh   2>&1 | tee oa
  time ./configure    2>&1 | tee oc
  time make bootstrap 2>&1 | tee omb
  time make           2>&1 | tee om

  # Run the new Emacs:
  ~/bigsrc/emacs/src/emacs


Cheers,
  Eduardo Ochs
  http://angg.twu.net/#eev


On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 22:18, arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com<mailto:arthur.miller@live.com>> wrote:
> I was expecting that Arthur would come up with a preprocessor written
> in (I guess) 30 lines of Elisp...

Interesting 🙂. If you have red my previous mails to this list you
might have noticed that I am not an elisp guru. Stefan has
outlined two possible ways how this could be implemented in
Elisp, if you follow his advice I am sure you will have a working
solution you can present to us. I don't care how many lines of code
it will take.

(...)

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-21  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-12 15:45 Christmas wish: Literate Elisp arthur miller
2019-12-12 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-14  4:40   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-14 14:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-15  8:37       ` arthur miller
2019-12-16 12:01       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-16 13:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-16 14:02           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-16 16:07             ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2019-12-17  2:09               ` arthur miller
2019-12-17 11:06                 ` Adam Porter
2019-12-18 16:29                   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 18:49                     ` Adam Porter
2019-12-18 20:04                       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 23:18                         ` Adam Porter
2019-12-18 23:53                           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 15:58                             ` Unknown
2019-12-18 21:18                       ` Sv: Sv: Sv: " Stefan Monnier
2019-12-18 22:43                         ` Christmas wish: Literate Elisp (Intro) VanL
2019-12-19  0:05                           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 22:59                         ` Sv: Sv: Sv: Christmas wish: Literate Elisp Adam Porter
2019-12-18 23:18                           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 23:52                             ` Adam Porter
2019-12-19  0:02                               ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-19  0:42                                 ` chad
2019-12-19  1:50                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-12-20  0:55                                     ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 15:00                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-20 15:50                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-20 15:50                                         ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 16:17                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-20 16:34                                             ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-12-21  1:18                                               ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-21  5:24                                                 ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-12-21  5:52                                                   ` arthur miller [this message]
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2019-12-21 15:29                                                     ` Sv: " arthur miller
     [not found]                                             ` <VI1P194MB0429A123183C15AF8EC3956B962C0@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
     [not found]                                               ` <jwv7e2pln3s.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <VI1P194MB0429F37A29A2720037CAD9F9962C0@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2019-12-22  7:01                                                   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 16:51   ` Phillip Lord
2019-12-21  1:16     ` Tim Cross
2019-12-21  4:24       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-21  6:41         ` Tim Cross
2019-12-21  9:39           ` VanL
2019-12-21 14:17             ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-14  4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-14  5:05   ` Sv: " arthur miller

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