From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: videoxfer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X - configuration package Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:53:57 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040227213744639+0000@news.eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1078063564 403 80.91.224.253 (29 Feb 2004 14:06:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 29 15:05:52 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AxRZn-0004DQ-00 for ; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:05:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AxRYz-0006nK-A6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:05:01 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn51feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s53.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Darwin) Original-Lines: 55 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.41.137 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net Original-X-Trace: attbi_s53 1078062837 66.31.41.137 (Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:53:57 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:53:57 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:121364 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:17318 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:17318 On 2004-02-29, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I assume you're working with the CVS version of Emacs, so it would be good > to send such messages to emacs-devel@gnu.org and to try and get some of > your changes installed in Emacs-CVS. I _hope_ these specializations don't become part of the standard carbon built. I want emacs to look like emacs regardless of the platform. > What is `Apple' mapped to in Emacs terms? In the carbon build it's either alt or meta, depending on the value of the variable mac-command-key-is-meta. Every carbon emacs user I know sets this variable to nil, the result of which is to make the apple key (aka 'command' or 'cmd' key) map to alt and the option key map to meta. It's a little odd the 'alt' key (same as 'option' on apple keyboards) isn't mapped to alt. But for consistency with running emacs in a Terminal it makes more sense (see below). In X11, the mapping depends on xmodmap in the usual way. All the osx emacs users I know who are running an X11 version map apple and option to alt and meta, respectively, which gives the same behavior as the carbon build when mac-command-key-is-meta is nil. When running in a Terminal window, the apple key is used for application commands, in the usual mac way, and can't be remapped. The option key can be set to act as meta, at least to some extent, which is consistent with the other two modes. >> - Emacs has a normal menu. > > Good. I agree it sounds good, but I don't know what the OP means here. The standard carbon build already has a 'normal' menu. >> - When you load a file, a new window opens (Emacs calls this: a frame). ( >> Closing with Apple-W currently has a few glitches.) > > This seems completely orthogonal to the OS you're running on. It's part of the old macos human-interface guidelines. Personally I would _not_ want this behavior in emacs, regardless of platform. >> - Mouse Wheel works > > Didn't it already work before? It did.