From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Inserting at particular buffer position Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2022 20:04:38 +0000 Message-ID: References: <25484.49696.452473.920014@tux.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1747"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Dr Rainer Woitok Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 04 21:05:32 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p1vEy-0000As-MQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 21:05:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1vEN-0006vk-RT; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:04:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1vEM-0006va-3L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4324.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.24]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1vEI-00010i-Ga for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:04:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1670184286; x=1670443486; bh=nnFr3HbrVL45DeeuwZhldaM4s7HjOrR5NEerPltGIoc=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=erO79AaJf/vukMPE/lROy0gumVUbPofVpsVkZDI5GuM2LqqeelzVuNTVTGH1Osr51 v7AmW7ZaY8vyOEWt6fPFrglitTbf/YwpKipbu0UEf1rj2n5KU1PRmje4QxyKeX9LaO Tghxc78/e+snXXjBRi5t6J29QTiivpAKEMZ+B/NTSyyb7+02GI9hJYLJkrRZsGnEhG BTlBSbeLsStacnxj2aNbVh2JaLmJPMQMI7Tpp4ZBMq9kB6DKX+DUPBq+oyYHDr0Twd 61NGByymkGKEj1c2W9wtMhG+HMFp1m4vmyXZ3T6jGijm2d36X8w7Yw3YdxBP9e/9Yv vvYefq6tw05ug== In-Reply-To: <25484.49696.452473.920014@tux.local> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.24; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4324.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141371 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, December 4th, 2022 at 3:52 PM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > On Sunday, 2022-12-04 16:21:41 +0300, Jean Louis wrote: >=20 > > * Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com [2022-12-04 04:14]: > >=20 > > > The function "insert", inserts characters into the current buffer, > > > at point, moving point forward. But how can I insert at a > > > particular position (row column). > >=20 > > I have Deja Vu. > >=20 > > (defun goto-x-y (x y) > > "Goto to line X, char Y." > > (goto-line x) > > (goto-char (point-at-bol)) > > (forward-char y)) >=20 >=20 > Heime, >=20 > a week or so ago you flabbergasted me (and probably others) with your > claim that programming is neither engineering nor science, but rather > sports. This claim made me gasp at first, but gradually I am getting > your point. While what makes up the Art of Programming can be looked-up > in Donald Knuth's book, what makes up the Sports of Programming can be > looked-up in your mails: just stubbornly nag people with sometimes very > imprecise questions, assumptions and allegations, and sooner or later > good-natured people like Jean Louis and plenty of others fall victim to > your tactics and start writing you the programmes you need. Sounds like an episode from "Our Gang", Doctor. > You have meanwhile got so many code snippets to solve your problems that > with a little additional manual reading, thinking, testing and adapting > your programme(s) should almost be working. >=20 > I take this as a Proof of Concept that programming is sports. Congratu- > lations :-) I'll invite you to the party for sure. =20 > Sincerely, > Rainer