From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu>
Cc: "'Help-Gnu-Emacs \(help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org\)'" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : messages to *Messages* without appearing in mini-buffer?
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:06:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488F00058934A82EB328031F3959@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7ci81ho.fsf@zoho.eu>
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> Best:
> (do-some-thing)
> Second best:
> (do-some-thing this-way)
> Not 3rd place:
> (let ((control-behavior with-some-value))
> (in-function) )
That's 3rd-grade "knowledge". (Only a rough
first approximation, if you prefer.)
There's NO such "best", though convincing the
Lexical Police of this is hardly worth trying. ;-)
"Best" depends on the purpose/use.
[The same applies to side effects and state.
And to `quote' (which by itself destroys
referential transparency). And to applicative
order evaluation. And to... All such "dirty",
more-difficult-to-prove/manage/manipulate, more
complicated things have their uses/advantages.]
There's are reasons that Common Lisp and Elisp
provide not only lexical binding but _also_
dynamic binding. And the reasons are not just
hysterical raisins. And Elisp has its own
particular reasons, as it's a Lisp for an editor
(and more).
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html#SEC17
"It is not necessary for dynamic scope to be the
only scope rule provided, just useful for it to
be available..."
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html#SEC18
"Some language designers believe that dynamic
binding should be avoided, and explicit argument
passing should be used instead..."
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-12 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-11 14:33 messages to *Messages* without appearing in mini-buffer? Eric S Fraga
2021-11-11 14:45 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-11 14:55 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-11 17:01 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-11-11 17:07 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-12 0:10 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 0:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-12 0:36 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 2:08 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-11-12 3:20 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 3:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-11-12 4:02 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 4:13 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-11-12 4:28 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-11-12 5:00 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 5:07 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 5:19 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 21:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-11-12 21:36 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 17:06 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-11-21 11:08 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 0:20 ` Drew Adams
2021-11-12 0:30 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 1:47 ` Drew Adams
2021-11-12 3:10 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-11-12 17:01 ` Drew Adams
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