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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312948 Archived-At: > > > >> I wouldn't dismiss the proposal to enable it by default. > > > > > > > > I don't dismiss it. > > > > > > So you don't oppose enabling savehist-mode by default? > > > > I don't _dismiss_ it. >=20 > You are splitting hair. Philip is not a native English speaker, and > he obviously meant "reject" when he said "dismiss". Did he, obviously? Then my showing the definition of `dismiss' might hopefully have helped. I don't _reject_ it either. (Not that it's in my power to do that. The most I could do is disagree with it.) I may in fact be the only person who's even been considering it. No one else has spoken up so far. I haven't seen a good reason to turn it ON by default - so far. But maybe there is one. I've made clear that I myself use savehist and I often recommend it. Persisting minibuffer input has been opt-in, so far. I do think it's generally advisable for users to be aware that what they type will be persisted, when that's the case. That applies to input history, search history, bookmarks, mail drafts, etc. Automatically saving predefined thingies (e.g. Customize settings) is less problematic in this regard than saving arbitrary typed text/input. This might be only a minor consideration - dunno. What do you think should be considered when weighing the proposal?