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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "19070@debbugs.gnu.org" <19070@debbugs.gnu.org>,
	"larsi@gnus.org" <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: bug#19070: 25.0.50; Provide a user option that filters the buffer list for `switch-to-next-buffer'
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 17:50:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488C4D97762E0DB5F7EE582F3CB9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pmkiodog.fsf@gnu.org>

> > If there were an accurate classification of whether
> > a bug was actually fixed, versus not fixed (won't
> > fix), then I wouldn't need to look at anything.
> >
> > In that case, "fixed" or "wont-fix" would suffice.
> > Alas, we now get tons and tons of "fixed"/"Done"
> > for bugs that are not fixed.
> >
> > If a bug is partly fixed, in the view of the fixer,
> > then yes, IMHO it behooves the closing email to make
> > clear to the filer what parts were fixed, i.e., how
> > much it was and wasn't fixed.  That's being honest
> > and straightforward.
> 
> The decision whether and how to fix a bug is a judgment call of the
> development team.

No one said anything to the contrary.  Common sense,
as well as politeness, calls for letting bug filers
know what was done and what was not done.

> We don't post all the details of the fix as part of
> the bug discussion, because it's a burden, and looking in the Git
> repository for the answer to that question is very easy.

Link to it directly in the closing mail.  Copy and
paste the URL - "very easy".

It's also a burden for users to report bugs and
follow up in bug threads.

> Honesty has nothing to do with that;

Honesty has to do with claiming that some "fix" was
"done" when it was not.  That's what honesty has to
do with.

> you are being unfair expecting the Emacs maintainers
> to do the job that you can do yourself, and easily so.

Put a direct link to the result (code or doc) in the
close message.

> > There's nothing odd or abnormal about expecting
> > specific info about how/whether a bug is "fixed".
> 
> Not nowadays, not with the easy access we all have
> to the repository and to the actual fixes.

Easy access for users is a link in the email.
Thank you in advance.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-16 16:38 bug#19070: 25.0.50; Provide a user option that filters the buffer list for `switch-to-next-buffer' Drew Adams
2022-05-12  1:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-12 16:02   ` Drew Adams
2022-05-12 16:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-12 16:53       ` Drew Adams
2022-05-12 17:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-12 17:25           ` Drew Adams
2022-05-12 17:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-12 17:50               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-05-12 18:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-12 21:57                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-05-13  8:14                     ` Robert Pluim

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