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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "damien@cassou.me" <damien@cassou.me>,
	"larsi@gnus.org" <larsi@gnus.org>,
	"54156@debbugs.gnu.org" <54156@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#54156: [External] : bug#54156: 28.0.91; set-face-attribute with a nil FRAME doesn't change the default
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 22:47:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488A2951CFF5E7898B03F7EF33F9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838rtxple8.fsf@gnu.org>

> > But is what I said correct, that just using nil
> > as the frame makes both the existing frames and
> > future ones use `unspecified' as the face value?
> 
> If you use 'unspecified', yes.

Yes, what I said was that it seems using `unspecified'
for the face attribute value and nil for the frame is
all that's needed.

> > And using _only_ `t' doesn't set the attribute
> > to `unspecified' for the existing frames, right?
> 
> I didn't say to use only t.

I didn't say you did say to use only t.

You said to use both (separately).  My question was
why to bother _also_ using `t'.  IIUC, `t' alone
doesn't help with existing frames (I asked for
confirmation).

And nil alone helps with both existing and future,
AFAICT.  I was asking for confirmation that what I
reported is correct - there's no need to also use
`t'.

> > > We generally don't advertise compatibility shims for obsolete
> > > features, because we want people to stop using them.
> >
> > Is it declared to be obsolete? We generally do
> > let users know when something they use is obsolete,
> > e.g. with a warning.  Do we do that for this case?
> 
> It's considered unsupported.  We just silently support 
> it for compatibility with old versions.

We could still do that but also warn that it's obsolete.

It could help to show a warning that lets you know that
(based on your using nil here) you likely want to use
`unspecified' instead.  Isn't that what we usually do?





  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-26 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-25 10:21 bug#54156: 28.0.91; set-face-attribute with a nil FRAME doesn't change the default Damien Cassou
2022-02-25 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 12:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 12:30     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 13:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 13:12         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 13:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 15:42             ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-26 15:04             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-26 15:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 16:17                 ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-26 16:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 17:23                     ` Drew Adams
2022-02-26 17:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 22:47                         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-02-27  7:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 15:49                             ` Drew Adams
2022-02-27 13:02                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-27 16:13                   ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-25 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii

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