From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "damien@cassou.me" <damien@cassou.me>,
"larsi@gnus.org" <larsi@gnus.org>,
"54156@debbugs.gnu.org" <54156@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#54156: [External] : bug#54156: 28.0.91; set-face-attribute with a nil FRAME doesn't change the default
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:23:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB548891B14388EFA8083B76FEF33F9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83czj9povl.fsf@gnu.org>
> > I'm not sure I understand this from Eli, however:
> >
> > The correct way to do what Damien wants (AFAIU) is this:
> > (set-face-attribute 'region nil :background 'unspecified)
> > (set-face-attribute 'region t :background 'unspecified)
> > That is, one must explicitly call set-face-attribute
> > with FRAME = t (as well as nil), and pass 'unspecified'
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > (NOT nil!) as the value. Maybe we should document that,
> > although it is a obscure and unusual thing to do.
> >
> > My impression is that it's enough to do this:
> >
> > (set-face-attribute 'region nil :background 'unspecified)
> >
> > I'm probably not testing/checking this correctly,
> > but it seems to me that both the selected frame
> > and new (future) frames are affected by using
> > nil for the frame (and `unspecified' for the
> > face attribute value).
>
> I'm not sure this isn't the result of the particular implementation we
> have, so I prefer to tell people to call with FRAME = t explicitly.
> After all, this is a rare use case.
But is what I said correct, that just using nil
as the frame makes both the existing frames and
future ones use `unspecified' as the face value?
That's what I think I see, and that was what OP
was after, IIUC.
IOW, is it really necessary to use two calls to
`set-face-attribute', one with nil FRAME and one
with `t' FRAME?
And using _only_ `t' doesn't set the attribute
to `unspecified' for the existing frames, right?
> > Eli, you say "This is well-documented: a color
> > must be a string or 'unspecified'." Still, it
> > wouldn't hurt to add something to that effect in
> > the doc of `set-face-attribute' - and say what
> > the effect is of using nil (for the face color)
> > - it's tolerated (no error) but it doesn't have
> > the effect of `unspecified'.
>
> We generally don't advertise compatibility shims for obsolete
> features, because we want people to stop using them.
Is it declared to be obsolete? We generally do
let users know when something they use is obsolete,
e.g. with a warning. Do we do that for this case?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-26 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-25 10:21 bug#54156: 28.0.91; set-face-attribute with a nil FRAME doesn't change the default Damien Cassou
2022-02-25 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 12:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 13:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 13:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 15:42 ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-26 15:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-26 15:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 16:17 ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-26 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 17:23 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-02-26 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 22:47 ` Drew Adams
2022-02-27 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 15:49 ` Drew Adams
2022-02-27 13:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-27 16:13 ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-25 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
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