From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
"xenodasein@tutanota.de" <xenodasein@tutanota.de>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Have Customize always use `custom-file`
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:15:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB54887DAD8500A0921CD90CF1F3499@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
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> > >>>> Customize should not write to your init file ...
> > >>>> That's a bad Emacs design choice, IMO.
> > >>>> It especially should not be the default behavior.
> >
> > I'd prefer the current behavior TBH, because the real
> > issue is not where it is written, it is when it's read.
>
> No. The real issue is who is writing it, and where.
>
> Users can control the location of `custom-file'
> and when it's read.
>
> And we can provide a default location and time
> of reading.
>
> > Currently it is easy to place custom-set-variables
> > where you want either inside init file or to place it into another
> > file.
>
> That would of course still be the case. Nothing
> prevents you from doing anything in your init or
> another file - including calling custom* functions.
>
> > Timing is important,
>
> It's absolutely important, and needs to remain
> under user control.
>
> > because Customize also has problems with
> > autoloads, and who knows what else.
>
> Dunno what problems you envision - please be
> specific.
>
> The only real change is to prevent Customize
> from writing to your init file. Nothing else.
next reply other threads:[~2022-01-03 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-03 16:15 Drew Adams [this message]
2022-01-03 16:20 ` Have Customize always use `custom-file` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-03 16:28 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-03 17:02 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-04 1:00 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 9:41 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-04 9:48 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 10:29 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-04 10:33 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 10:44 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-04 10:53 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-05 5:35 ` tomas
2022-01-06 3:57 ` Richard Stallman
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2022-01-03 17:55 Drew Adams
2022-01-03 18:31 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-03 16:13 Drew Adams
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