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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321077 Archived-At: > > We should be able to change default key bindings more freely than we do > now. >=20 > Yes, but... Every time we do this, we're > upsetting _sombody_'s work flow. No. Sacrificing a free key to a new default binding isn't necessarily about upsetting anyone's workflow. (But yes, that's likely.)=20 It IS necessarily about expanding the frontier of DefaultEmacsLand. The remaining unclaimed territory is a scarce resource, now more than ever. That aquifer's nearly drained already. Whether some key binding is already used by someone, or by many, is a different problem. Emacs's grabbing more territory for default bindings is a bigger problem than exercising its Eminent Domain over this or that person's binding.=20 Binding `C-x 4 ' doesn't interfere with my workflow, but I still spoke up against sacrificing `C-x 4' with , , , .