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envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137992 Archived-At: > > An Elisp "library" is a "package" with or without any > > additional package-handling paraphernalia. >=20 > I think we should have standard libraries like for example > C with the aspiration for uniformness and general usefulness > for a broad range of purposes ... the rest would be libraries > or simply programs (and no such assumptions could then be > made), and last if it's bundled in the Elisp package way, then > it's a package of course. "Library" in Emacs/Elisp has long meant what I said. Lisp files (e.g. `dired.el') or sets of files (e.g. Gnus) included with Emacs (perhaps autoloaded) are referred to as libraries. You don't need to download them separately. And being part of Emacs, they're "standard", if you like. And they're typically not packages. The only ones that are also packages are (I think) those that are also available from a package repository. I think this is the case for Org, for example.