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envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137964 Archived-At: > > No, I don't think it is. Not in `emacs -Q', > > Emacs 28 and prior. >=20 > I mean the sentence "This feature is deprecated--it > is best to pass nil for INITIAL-INPUT and supply the > default value DEF instead." - a sentence present for > more than 20 years. That just says it's deprecated. And says "it is best...". It doesn't say _why_ it is best. It doesn't say why it was deprecated. It doesn't say how DEF suffices as a replacement. Supplying DEF is _not_ an adequate substitute for INITIAL-INPUT. Each is useful. (BTW, when comparing two things, the better word to use is "better", not "best".) > > But maybe we differ on what an explanation of why means. >=20 > Likely.