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As is, with no changes (curlifying quotes, fiddling with text properties, prettifying,...). *Messages* is a _log_. 2. We can add various ways for users or libraries to optionally _view_ various subsets of such messages, or to _filter_ (remove) them, or to _inhibit adding_ some of them. But all of that needs to be optional, under control by individual users or libraries, and _on top of_ an underlying/default behavior of recording every echo-area message in *Messages* as is. #2 has been discussed before, with no conclusions or action taken. I can't easily find the mail conversations about this, and probably that doesn't matter - I think not much that was concrete was proposed/discussed. I did find these threads that touched on it, at least: emacs-devel@gnu.org: * Intelligent stacking of messages in the echo area * Message's text-properties in *Messages* * Why "symbol's value" error about a list? Bug list: * bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle ___ E.g., in the bug #40774 thread, I wrote: I wonder if buffer *Messages* shouldn't have a menu-bar menu, with a few items that do things like filter temporarily in various ways, change `message-log-max', etc. Some things a user might want to do with the buffer content aren't necessarily obvious. IOW, *Messages* could probably be made more directly useful than it is now.