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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "53636@debbugs.gnu.org" <53636@debbugs.gnu.org>,
	"tsdh@gnu.org" <tsdh@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#53636: [External] : bug#53636: 29.0.50; face-remapping broken on master
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 21:12:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB54884F5E7AAF1455832CCD56F3279@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871r0loxr9.fsf@gnus.org>

 
> >> OK, you want to change the header-line and mode-line-inactive faces so
> >> that they no longer inherit from the mode-line face?
> >
> > Yes, I think this is the best way forward.  Though it will be somewhat
> > backward-incompatible, if someone customizes mode-line and expects
> > header-line to follow suit.
> 
> I think this would break a lot more than the current situation does.
> Lots of people expect these faces to inherit the way they do, and have
> set up stuff based on that.

FWIW, I think folks should _not_ depend on any
such predefined inheritances.  Emacs shouldn't
encourage it and should instead warn against it.

(I'm not a fan of such predefined inheritance.)

> Programmatic remapping of the `mode-line'
> face, on the other hand, is a much smaller issue,

Why do you think it's a much smaller issue?

> we can just say "use `mode-line-active' instead".

You can "just say" anything you like.  This bug
report is the kind of thing you'll see, as a
starter.

FWIW, I'm not in favor of changing what used to
be face `mode-line' to face `mode-line-active'.
I don't think that should have been necessary.

Let's see why it came to this...

You said earlier:

 > The new mode-line-active face was supposed to
 > fix the decoupling of mode-line and header-line.

The answer for how to decouple those should have
been for header-line to _not_ inherit mode-line.
Never should have had that inheritance in the
first place, IMO.

Face inheritance is over(ab)used.  Shouldn't be
done by `emacs -Q` itself.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-30 13:52 bug#53636: 29.0.50; face-remapping broken on master Tassilo Horn
2022-01-30 17:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-30 18:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 18:31     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-30 19:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 20:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 20:28           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-31 12:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31 19:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-01 19:38                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-01 20:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 17:59                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-02 18:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 19:48                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-02 21:12                           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-02-03  6:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03 19:24                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-03 19:53                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05  6:20                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-05  7:50                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 16:14                                     ` bug#53636: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-05 22:27                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-06  7:12                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 23:16                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07 15:03                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08  6:08                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-08  8:58                                               ` martin rudalics
2022-02-08 12:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08 18:24                                                   ` martin rudalics
2022-02-08 18:57                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08 12:29                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09  8:01                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-09 13:57                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-12 12:20                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13  8:20                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-13  8:31                                                         ` Tassilo Horn
2022-02-15  9:31                                                           ` Tassilo Horn
2022-02-13 11:58                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14 10:38                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-03 18:30                           ` Eli Zaretskii

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