From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, xah lee <xah@xahlee.org>
Cc: "1111@debbugs.gnu.org" <1111@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#1111: [External] : bug#1111: describe-key's key notation display inconsistency
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 22:49:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB548801DF2D11856CD187823BF3A49@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmkdOKk7YegsJCGMC+0m44iNZfj0RheKCEhAmonQNwuNng@mail.gmail.com>
> This is now the case in Emacs 28, from NEWS:
>
> ** Modifiers now go outside angle brackets in pretty-printed key
> bindings.
> For example, 'RET' with Control and Meta modifiers is now shown as
> 'C-M-<return>' instead of '<C-M-return>'. Either variant can be
> used
> as input; functions such as 'kbd' and 'read-kbd-macro' accept both
> styles as equivalent (they have done so for a long time).
Unfortunate.
Should have instead made the manuals consistent
with the way Emacs has (forever) talked about
itself, if consistency was the aim. (Internal
/ local consistency is always more important
than global consistency.
This will require at least some 3rd-party docs
(HTML, wiki, plain-text, whatever) to change,
where such bindings are explicit (not via
\\[...]).
And as I mentioned in this thread, it will
lead users to misread and confuse things like
`C-x <right>' with `C-<right>'. There's
no such problem with `<C-right>'.
___
Beyond that, if the change is what was requested
by the OP, then it's a change in *Help* (perhaps
among other things). And yet that's not even
mentioned in the NEWS.
What does "in pretty-printed key bindings" refer
to? Users will rightfully wonder. The manuals?
(No, they already used C-<right>.) Output of
`pp' commands? Messages? Byte-compiler
warnings? All of the above? None of the above?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-24 22:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-07 15:12 bug#1111: describe-key's key notation display inconsistency xah lee
2019-08-08 12:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-08 15:47 ` Drew Adams
2019-08-08 16:03 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-08 17:25 ` Drew Adams
2019-08-08 18:06 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-08 22:15 ` Drew Adams
2019-08-08 23:05 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-09 0:14 ` Drew Adams
2019-08-09 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-24 22:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-24 22:49 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-09-26 5:07 ` Xah Lee
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=SJ0PR10MB548801DF2D11856CD187823BF3A49@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com \
--to=drew.adams@oracle.com \
--cc=1111@debbugs.gnu.org \
--cc=stefan@marxist.se \
--cc=xah@xahlee.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.