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I think I once started into building emacs from scratch without knowing much about apt or anything about snap, flathub, or guix. I quickly started running into installation of large numbers of other dependencies that looked like they would require too much overwriting of system libraries. I quickly abandoned that idea. My questions above stem from that experience. I'm considering the ideas from this thread. -- David Masterson