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I guess you are > seeing quoting related messages: since quote characters are changed to > these fancy Unicode quotes in *Help* now, you must quote quotes > specially in code examples (using "\\=") . The compiler detects those > quotes that are obviously not part of a `' pair. I think it was something about docstring width. But I've spent too much time on this. I'll keep my build of Emacs 30.0.50, but I'll keep using 27.1 for now, I was going to try to snap Emacs 28.2 in, but I've found that snap (squashfs) doesn't work in the Chromebook virtual machine. Another thing to look at later. -- David Masterson