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From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 10:24:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR03MB54550C7727696BE317D0DD13A21D9@SJ0PR03MB5455.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k032nyok.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Thu, 08 Dec 2022 07:26:35 +0000")

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

> David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I went so far as to add the following to early-init.el:
>>
>> (if (featurep 'org) (unload-feature 'org))
>> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6")
>> (load-library "org")
>>
>> The load-library still fails with the org-assert-version error.
>
> Indeed. It is to be expected. M-x package-install should not err here
> though. In theory.

My testing says that, in early-init.el, Org is not yet a feature, so the
built-in Org-9.3 is not yet loaded and the first 'if' fails. Adding the
path for Org-9.6 should put it at the front of the load-path and
(hopefully) override Org-9.3 if it is in the load-path (I think I
checked that).  The error in the load-library is, therefore, a problem
with Org-9.6 installed by package-install. 

> I suggest you to read `org-assert-version'. It aims to catch the
> situation above and similar.

This is chicken and egg problem.  I can't use 'org-assert-version'
unless I can get Org to load.

> Note, however, that installation problem is different. Or rather it
> should be different.
>
>> Could it be that, when you package-install Org-9.6, it runs through a
>> check where (I think) it compiles the package?  I get a lot of warnings
>> and 34(?) failed files.  Could it be that some of the files are not
>> built and, so, when I load-library, I'm picking up some of the wrong
>> files from the built-in Org-9.3?  Do we need to remove all versions of
>> Org that is not the current version from the load-path at the very
>> beginning of org.el to ensure no fall-through?  Kind of a hack, but...
>
> Maybe. It should not. That's why I raised
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=59882
> I'd like to see if Emacs devs have anything to say here.

Good. I'm not used to bug reporting in Emacs, so I raised a question on
use-package in emacs-devel@gnu.org, but they pointed me at your bug.
I'll see if I can add anything there.

-- 
David Masterson


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-08 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-06  2:50 Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem David Masterson
2022-12-06  5:36 ` tomas
2022-12-06  7:04   ` David Masterson
2022-12-07 13:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-08  3:27   ` David Masterson
2022-12-08  7:16     ` David Masterson
2022-12-08  7:26       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-08 18:24         ` David Masterson [this message]
2022-12-08 19:31           ` Michel Schinz
2022-12-08 21:56             ` David Masterson
2022-12-08 22:56               ` Tim Cross
2022-12-09  5:00                 ` David Masterson
2022-12-09  6:56                   ` Tim Cross
2022-12-09 15:49                     ` Sharon Kimble
2022-12-10 20:38                 ` Tom Gillespie
2022-12-09  7:17               ` bug#59882: " Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09  7:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09  7:43                 ` David Masterson
2022-12-09 11:57                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09 11:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09 19:40                   ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-09 19:40                   ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-09 19:51                     ` David Masterson
2022-12-09 20:27                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09 20:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09 19:51                     ` David Masterson
2022-12-09  7:43                 ` David Masterson
2022-12-10 14:01                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-10 14:01                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-14  9:51                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-14 12:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-14 13:37                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-14 13:37                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-14 14:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-14 16:02                         ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-14 16:02                         ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-15  4:17                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-15  4:17                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-15  4:56                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-15  4:56                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-16 12:36                             ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-16 14:47                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-16 14:47                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-18 15:24                                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-18 15:24                                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-18 15:40                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-18 15:40                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-06 16:09                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-06 16:09                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-06 21:25                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-06 21:25                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-19  4:20                                         ` Tom Gillespie
2023-04-19  4:20                                         ` Tom Gillespie
2022-12-25  9:48                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-25  9:48                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-25 11:46                                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-26  8:44                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-26  8:44                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-26 11:01                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-26 12:25                                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-27  9:47                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-27  9:47                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-27  9:56                                               ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-27  9:56                                               ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-03 11:02                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-03 11:02                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-03 12:15                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-03 12:15                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-03 20:01                                                   ` Tim Cross
2023-02-14 22:53                                                     ` Gregor Zattler
2023-02-16 12:14                                                       ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-16 12:14                                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-21  5:22                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-21  5:22                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-21 12:32                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 12:32                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 17:26                                                             ` Bhavin Gandhi
2023-02-21 17:26                                                               ` Bhavin Gandhi
2023-02-22 10:48                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-22 10:48                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-22 16:58                                                                 ` Bhavin Gandhi
2023-02-22 16:58                                                                 ` Bhavin Gandhi
2023-02-23  9:35                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-23  9:35                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-14 22:53                                                     ` Gregor Zattler
2023-04-06 15:02                                                   ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-06 15:02                                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-07 11:39                                                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-26 12:25                                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-26 11:01                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-25 11:46                                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-16 12:36                             ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-14 14:35                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-14 14:25                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-14 14:25                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-14 12:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-14 21:49                   ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-14 21:49                   ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-14  9:51                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-09 19:47               ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-09 19:47               ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-08 21:56             ` bug#59882: " David Masterson
2022-12-08 21:50           ` Cook, Malcolm
     [not found]     ` <87o7se74bf.fsf@penguin>
2022-12-08  7:19       ` David Masterson
2022-12-08  9:10     ` Ihor Radchenko

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