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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265644 Archived-At: > If someone wants to turn tool bar off, let them do that. We don't > need to turn the Emacs appearance upside down just because of some > fashion: we already support that fashion. (This is not what you're discussing now, I guess, but it can affect whether a user's choice of whether to use tool bars.) I'll just mention again that users can have a popup tool bar. IOW, show it only on demand, for a single action. Also, ability to show the tool-bar only for the current frame. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ToolBar#ToolBarPlus This or a similar feature could be added to vanilla Emacs.