From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48307: [External] : bug#48307: Feature request: provide default keybindings to change the font size in all windows Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 14:33:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <603bbc01-b1a2-b367-f54e-59a57475cbfe@gmail.com> <618a480bbe37bb9057f9@heytings.org> <999f8d7a-3c1b-bf72-dd15-472be09b8d34@gmail.com> <618a480bbe312e9a2db9@heytings.org> <24ec1bdc-b006-7ace-8320-8d45bb42daaa@gmail.com> <618a480bbe626e3a52c6@heytings.org> <83y2cm658t.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26106"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "cpitclaudel@gmail.com" , "48307@debbugs.gnu.org" <48307@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 16:35:06 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lg6zx-0006gG-SA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 16:35:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47658 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lg6zw-00033U-Lp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 10:35:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lg6yw-00022f-Lo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 10:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50669) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lg6yw-0005eK-EP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 10:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lg6yw-0008Sk-BL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 10:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 14:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48307 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48307-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48307.162065721332482 (code B ref 48307); Mon, 10 May 2021 14:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48307) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2021 14:33:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33981 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lg6yT-0008Rq-7M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 10:33:33 -0400 Original-Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:32960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lg6yR-0008Rb-7M for 48307@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 10:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 14AESbw7168980; Mon, 10 May 2021 14:33:25 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=meu3M/T7+l9vbvjOc2iepkzi0mPxhIgILQWsCpehML8=; b=H5raBna6hqL+/lJg73M1uo/kcs/ps1rFeShY5sTbxeiCbg3LhDSo26ggCHe3Z5EeKjmg PJTVQmCgCRdE0eCU1hZvgeoEAm5yVq/JVJavdwp77RNr2WiwR8qhoy1c2oMkQVyuUL/Z mw2agLLwvLj+hVvgYq6XR9j22JrTrXPMNvZrzlygFeL260KEjqLvtQubh5yUA4PCGaO1 ePTfMoEjA2Ghnvdtk8aTcc89ynrWm4pvkqySs4FR5a4o70AfR+M9nul9ctV7x+pQ91zj 7qNDa/OYF997cu3WF54Bl5ZtoIwWcXrb74hh4Ene9pWCczCK6JrLiVYNwwGl17GpZRyk Ww== Original-Received: from userp3030.oracle.com (userp3030.oracle.com [156.151.31.80]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 38dk9nbdsa-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 May 2021 14:33:25 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 14AEVftD031024; Mon, 10 May 2021 14:33:25 GMT Original-Received: from nam02-sn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-sn1nam02lp2050.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.36.50]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 38dfrvhnu4-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 May 2021 14:33:24 +0000 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=kQahpNtyQhazs/1ujj6YqatV66t6S/j9K/IflaliwZVOs2oRioiQRTLMcddTc9YCBPMYkoF/Mrt4PXuI3HLDM9ydV6cSz4Be5fIqL3svCHbqBwLBTIxYfImjIt8qKYEfdOXvcHMpNmYArlsMcIQjorI4X9JZ8uY4q556JLQhzS6YowpaSWBp5+64vhNR94NV9wo6lfURhkX/pedw8WHhSbEjFUr7xbh7P8ENX5iB7dSUVAbt5vdLsxxff4nkFWYuNrFVK0FH/ZVlppwD8UwzJWkUP7eZ6ai/I8w0CC0U2CTFjG189Okjwts6ssTiZm++42UkiS2HE0Zg6bjfXK5ZxA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=meu3M/T7+l9vbvjOc2iepkzi0mPxhIgILQWsCpehML8=; b=LsGY7lxVDbeCqff96Bw/GAKyAeelPOUJ1KwXt3RZJT4UD/fnmIHQrSeqvnfglGrI31j6uV8zEq35bDLxce/YJRcdrEQlmBbnrn68bGsAIdwr31MDaU/CHYG9FV1LqIOUuJddHp82qkZ1SLa2fVKdiTkMBFqK746w/U7Mux/RWK0yYrp4mJpn8LDhWHwtihhmVDLddwHc3brWXvHYdTcUbV6TuSgJ5dO5/S98OMvOrpkcMGl7vSMi3kjHiaj/E2mrjlnfvEnVjUhS37MwWk8GnCaQDtXVSsrzPb1hq4DHS4GiLMgW6kisNuvqOJXjdWNFGudNgvfox8gUBN7KfxgkuQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=oracle.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=oracle.com; dkim=pass header.d=oracle.com; arc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-oracle-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=meu3M/T7+l9vbvjOc2iepkzi0mPxhIgILQWsCpehML8=; b=cZaRPr6zFMtzOn8hq93UwdbAXlR63vVTgM07Zq64wZQsOwlP/pPsb0w/Pj03X9FRu/Ql12CrlRlwu9R/gF7is/iLl654V7D8Fm+LxhP+3cVLozWiAAxp1Tqhc08zTLC7N8Dew+6rOLIcA4yGKQtG4csVfhB3fRHadvLOPnkt0GM= Original-Received: from SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:806:11b::15) by SA2PR10MB4569.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:806:111::11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4108.25; Mon, 10 May 2021 14:33:23 +0000 Original-Received: from SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::2109:9725:fd4a:6494]) by SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::2109:9725:fd4a:6494%6]) with mapi id 15.20.4087.049; Mon, 10 May 2021 14:33:23 +0000 Thread-Topic: [External] : bug#48307: Feature request: provide default keybindings to change the font size in all windows Thread-Index: AQHXRahIBi1dL9oOvk20FdEAqnRCf6rcxX4g In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: heytings.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;heytings.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=oracle.com; x-originating-ip: [73.170.83.28] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: d60a304a-5aec-4080-f535-08d913c090d3 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: SA2PR10MB4569: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:8882; x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 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 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(136003)(376002)(39860400002)(366004)(396003)(346002)(44832011)(64756008)(66446008)(26005)(66556008)(186003)(71200400001)(66476007)(8676002)(6506007)(122000001)(83380400001)(86362001)(38100700002)(8936002)(55016002)(4326008)(110136005)(316002)(54906003)(9686003)(478600001)(5660300002)(76116006)(2906002)(7696005)(33656002)(52536014)(66946007); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: 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 t9pjkFGJZje5F5vbojQ/ySLEjaXgR13Lj+HMuYir8y1ZF74Q8JabfK6PhjruB3dhnZe9lKQHVlEKCVEsx0NzQJ8e2XCsxb9Zq5 x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: d60a304a-5aec-4080-f535-08d913c090d3 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 10 May 2021 14:33:23.3477 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: GCAAKwEE0gGaQODT0q6S+Ta7r6RPF/b6aNWyLksnIHM1Jrc9blaHtPr9Hstcg/oiKRb1xpaYko/4oWiIrwoBqQ== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SA2PR10MB4569 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=9980 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=860 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104190000 definitions=main-2105100105 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: GzcZPojsro0MyIo8cjGWi88CSZq57yrG X-Proofpoint-GUID: GzcZPojsro0MyIo8cjGWi88CSZq57yrG X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=9980 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 priorityscore=1501 clxscore=1015 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104190000 definitions=main-2105100105 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206161 Archived-At: > The patch I just sent avoids that problem, and does what other > programs do when the user zooms: their frames are not resized. Doing just what other programs do can be good or bad - a blessing or a curse. It's often better to be able to do so, but not be limited to doing so. Not resizing the frame to continue to show the buffer in the same way within it (e.g. perhaps no wrapping and no wasted blank space at the right) is not necessarily what a given user wants in a given context. I use automatic fitting of frames to the (single) buffer shown in them, by default. Zooming a frame, and having it continue to fit the text the same way, is a feature, not a bug. Like most features, it should of course be optional. As I mentioned in a earlier mail in this thread today, I provided similar optional behavior for text scaling. Zooming out by text scaling shouldn't necessarily add, in effect, a lot of blank space at the right. (I like to avoid such wasted space, whether it's for windows or frames, in general.)