From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?
Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 00:25:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB447427EA2DD4AB1EE124BDA9F3279@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sg2ekg93.fsf@gnu.org>
> > Breaking long-standing behavior. I'll let others figure
> > out how to minimize this (e.g. by testing for
> > `transient-mark-mode` or something).
There's nothing to figure out. The proposal said
clearly from the outset that it would have NO effect
when `transient-mark-mode' is turned OFF.
So yes, `transient-mark-mode' would be tested, and if
nil then the long-standing behavior would be UNCHANGED.
Similarly, the behavior of Lisp code that invokes the
command non-interactively would be UNCHANGED.
(if (or (not (called-interactively-p 'interactive))
(not transient-mark-mode))
(apply COMMAND ARGS) ; NO CHANGE FROM PAST BEHAVIOR
;; Do what user wants for such a command
;; when region is inactive.
...
)
The only change in "long-standing behavior" would be for
interactive use when `transient-mark-mode' is turned ON.
And even that could be configurable. E.g.:
* A list (defvar) of the commands that would be affected.
Users could change this, but mostly would not bother.
* A defcustom to choose command behavior for inactive region:
1. Do nothing (ignore - command is a no-op on inactive region).
2. Prompt to confirm action.
(e.g. "Region is inactive. Invoke `foobar' on it anyway?")
3. Raise an error.
(e.g. "Cannot use `foobar' interactively with inactive region")
A good default behavior would be to do nothing (#1),
in keeping with the aim to use `transient-mark-mode'
to govern things. These are essentially commands that
never learned about `transient-mark-mode' and active
regions. In general, there's little sense in turning
on `transient-mark-mode' and wanting commands to act
on the INactive region.
* For named commands at least, we could add an ability to
override the defcustom behavior for particular commands:
(put 'foobar 'inactive-region-command-action 'error)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-23 0:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-21 20:58 Change default behavior of some commands that act on region? Drew Adams
2021-05-22 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-22 6:19 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-05-22 6:36 ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-22 7:00 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-05-22 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-22 7:00 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-05-22 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 0:23 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-23 0:23 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-22 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-22 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-22 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-23 0:25 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-05-22 19:26 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-22 21:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-23 0:25 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-23 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 14:27 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-23 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 17:50 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-23 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 19:22 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-23 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 20:07 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-22 23:07 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-23 0:24 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-23 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-23 1:37 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-23 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 14:28 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-23 15:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-23 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-23 18:44 ` T.V Raman
2021-05-22 20:48 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-23 0:24 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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